Originally Posted by ExarchofJustice
I never had much of an issue with shove being a bonus action myself
I'm genuinely starting to wonder what this sentence means exactly for some of you, because I see it said often about a lot of balance problems that other users discuss about.

What do you mean when you say "you never had issues"? The issue is the effect this tweak has on the overall balance and action economy, not how convenient it is to use it (because of course it is).
And it's especially jarring the impact this has on AI behavior.

I listed some of the problems with it here, for context:
https://forums.larian.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=820587#Post820587

And to be clear, these are problems that exist even if someone doesn't care about them.

P.S. For what is worth, I remember that when the EA started and I had other priorities I used to be rather lukewarm about the "shove issue". My take was more or less "Eh, generally speaking I'd prefer if they sticked closer to the system they are adapting but it doesn't really seem like a big deal".
I had a complete turnaround about it precisely because playing the game over and over made it clear that the impact of this change was far worse than I originally anticipated.

Last edited by Tuco; 15/07/22 12:43 PM.

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