I cant resist this ...
1. When Shadowheart says that we should find a healer, I consider the githyanki creche to fall under that heading, so it always surprises me when Laezel disapproves.
Can i ask you where you get that expression?
Since Shadowheart litteraly hates Githyanki, keep claiming that you should have kill Lae'zel when you finded her, and when you dig deep enough (dunno if that is still the case, i dislike this person so i avoid many interactions with her ... but it was in past patches) she litteraly tells you that she would rather accept deal with Raphael, than give herself into their hands.
2. I see nothing wrong with listening to Laezel. Her kind know more about the mind flayers than most.
3 problems:
1) People lie ... and Evil races from DnD lie twice as much.
And even if she would not lie (since Lae'zel indeed seems like quite straight person, not bcs she would think that lying is bad ... more like bcs she would not even bother) she may not say the whole truth ... and as the Githyanki encounter shows us (even tho i know its too late in that case) she may not even *know* the whole truth.
2) How do you know? :P
I mean, i know, you know ... but how do your Tav know?
Since our characters dont have the luxury of opening wikipedia in next tab and read about Githyanki.
You get me right?
The only info Lae'zel can provide you is how ceremorphosis is working ... wich is litteraly exactly the same as what Gale tells you ... and yet you concider her informations to be more solid.
Beyond that, all you can say for sure it that Lae'zel presumes that her people are better in everything ... wich by her own words includes tadpole remowal ...
But as the story goes, if you dare to go against her ... you can show her in multiple cases that her way is not the only way, and certainly not the best way either.
For example with Zoru ...
3) (Wich one could say is the most important point)
Even if those both would be ignored or answered somehow ... meaning our Tav would honestly and surely *KNOW* that her people know more about Mind Flayers than most ...
Then our Tav would also *KNOW* that they are extremely xenophobic and closeminded nation, that is raiding our world any time they see fit ... and they would most likely rather cut our head off, bcs we were infected, than benevolently help us.
3. I imagine most players tend to deal with the areas they're in before moving on to the next area. Meaning, by the time you reach the githyanki patrol, you're probably already 4th level and have some decent equipment.
Even if that would be right, it would only mean that argument that happens here dont include them.
4. Even Tav says Halsin is the best option. This happens when you read Halsin's notes after talking to Nettie, assuming you take the time to read what's sitting on the table by the drow.
Even if ... that that alone is huge if, bcs im not aware of this situation and wont lie to you ... i dont believe he did ...
You should take under concideration that when this claim could have ben made ... Halsin was more like the only option.
Also it dont really exclude meeting with Githyanki. O_o
And that was the point here wasnt it?
5. The plot makes it more than clear that Halsin is an important option for the player to follow up on.
Again ... it dont. :P
6. If you make it to the githyanki patrol, combat is not a given.
True!
7. If you do engage in combat with the githyanki, you can win without relying on exploits. It's difficult, but absolutely winnable.
Again, true ... even tho it seemed easier in Patch 7 ...
Either that, ot Barbarian was closer to my heart than Bard ...
Wich is hardly surprising, even cow turd is closer to my heart than Bards. :-/
8. If you don't win, apologies, but so what? You losing a combat doesn't make the combat bad. I happen to enjoy the fight.
But its true that this fight is really hard, and if RNG screws you, you REALLY feels it here. :-/
It happened several times to me that my party had bad rolls for initative ... and both my meelers ended up dead before my first character get even chance to do anything, since i get two crittical strikes. :-/
While the fight can be fun indeed ... this isnt it.
Thats pure essence of frustration.
9. There will probably be difficulty levels in the final release.
Thats hardly an argument ...
Unless you will change your difficiulty before and after every battle (wich we dont even know if that will be possible). :-/
Problem many people have with Githyanki is that they are conciderably harder than many other encounters they meet til this one. And it really is ...
Goblins are hardly any challenge, aswell as Gnolls ... and unless you get into spider lair, or the Underdark, Githyanki are basicaly the only challenge you meet ... at least on surface.
And while you are used on enemies you hit with almost every attack, since they have 12-15AC ... sudently you are missing like crazy, since they have 17(18? not sure now) ...
While you are used that your spells often work ... sudently your enemies are resisting everything ...
Your sleep is useless, bcs they have artificaly incerased hitpoints to ridiculous amount ... your AoE spells give shit damage, bcs they have ridiculously high Dexterity, so they sucess in saving throws often ... your other spells are also useless, since they have also high Wisdom, so they resist most of them ... they also keep most of your group in Sleep, or Silence, so if you relayed on some strategic positioning, they turned it against you.
That is the problem here.
It feels like if you would kill two rats in some old RPG ... and the game would send against you final boss from Dark Souls as you next enemy.
