About shove, Jandk remind me the "backstab and highground advantage is GREAT" crowd. A crowd that NEVER complaint after patch 5 😅
Are you making a point that you prefer complainers? To each their own, I suppose.
No, I'm making a point that some players argue for the sake of arguing and don't care what they were arguing about anymore after it's changed. Probably just like you when they'll finally make shove a full action
I'm mostly sure some of these players also agree that changes in patch 5 were good, finally.