Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - General Poll: Are you playing BG3 the way you wish it could be played?

You are explaining me what cheese is ...
I know what it is, and yet i dont feel any compel, urge, or desire to use any them ...

If the game is so encouraging to play this way ...
How is that possible that im imune?

It seems to me that the only one who "don't really try" is you people, who uses vague excuses like:
Instead of simply play the game any way the hell you want and have fun.

Yes, i know and understand that it is frustrating if your character ends up in Lava, bcs you were shoved ... bad luck. There is not much else to say.

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Finaly someone who understands. ^_^

This is not true tho ...
Name single case where you get more Loot, or XP, unlocking any additional options or outcomes for using any cheese.
Yes, the combat gets easier with them ... but that is their purpose of existence.

On the contrary, people who are using cheeses are often screwed ...

If you Shove your enemies to the Abyss, you loose your loot ... sometimes even story/quest options and outcomes ...

Perfect example of this is the Hag:
Puting aside the fact that curently she is buged and you dont get the hair anyway ... if you shove her to that hole (and we know it is possible) ...
You loose her loot, loose option to sell Marina in exchange for power, loose that potential outcome to let Hag leave without Marina and potentialy return later for revenge, and in some extend, you loose fun of pretty interesting fight with nice mechanics (i for one quite enjoy guessing wich Hag is real and wich is Marina with ilusion)
And you get ... what exactly? What is that huge encouraging benefit? O_o

I would agree that the game is build so people *know* about those things ... but nothing more.
In my honest opinion, they are there so people *can* cheese anything they want, IF they want to ...
And that is important difference ...

Every single combat in game is winnable without cheesing ...
So any argument about they being essential is false ... if some people cant see beyond the "most effective way" no matter how much they hate themself and the game for doing it ...
Well, it is indeed sad, but its their problem, not the game.

Im sory, i just cant force myself to blame gun for shooting people. It seems ridiculous. :-/

The Hag hair isn't bugged if you choose the option to just give her Mayrina. All the other options are bugged, however.

I was able to get the hair on Patch 8.

I told her to have her and get nothing!
Even tho she was talking to Astarion, so maybe that was the problem ... not by fault tho, so still unfair!

I think there is a disconnect here. Wormerine is implying that like you said in your reply to him, players knew what they were getting. They are not complaining about that aspect. Nearly all the complaints on these boards are mechanics issues...and those very much are one of the reasons we as players where invited into the EA by Larian. They wanted to know what works and what doesn't.

The problem, as I see it, isn't the feedback.

The feedback has already been given. What we're experiencing now is the equivalent of ballot stuffing. People continuing to harp on about the same issues to make noise, by their own admission, in the hopes that they're more likely to be recognized. It's functionally unethical, in my opinion.

Not to mention, I don't personally consider it feedback anymore--constructive or otherwise--when the same handful of folks use just about any and every opportunity to bring up the same things in every thread. It doesn't matter what the thread's about: it's an opportunity to bring up shove or the lack of a day/night mechanic or complain about movement. So on and so on.

Again, the feedback has been given. This is no longer in the realm of feedback. It's effectively bullying and ballot stuffing.

Right.

How dare people bring up again what they are unhappy about, in a thread that is more or less specifically asking what they are unhappy about?

Also, Jesus Christ, the lack of self awareness.

“Hehe, I’ll take any chance to throw in some catty vitriolic comment about how people have no real basis to complain about Feature X… OH NO, Why is everyone talking about feature X again!?”

Day/Night

Party of 6

Long Rest/Short Rest mechanics fix

Shove sucks

Gith/Dragon scene makes no sense

Companions make no sense

Reactions like Solasta

Lol

You know. We usually bring things up again and again because they continue to drive us crazy, and we're trying to help develop solutions hoping Larian will maybe, just maybe, listen. That and the fact that someone new comes into the forum and again complains about the same issue, giving the same or similar feedback that we do. So, we once again start talking about it.

Look. Until they tell me they aren't going to give us Day/Night for sure, or Party of 6, or fix Resting, or Shove or whatever, I'm going to keep bringing the stuff up when I think of something new or when someone else brings it up.

You know. You could just stop reading posts that are the same complaints over and over. You could ignore them. There's no such thing as ballot stuffing out here. We're all screaming into a void with Composer periodically finding nuggets he thinks are good and sending them to the team. It's not voting. They're not counting up how many times someone says fix Shove.

You forgot the dirty faces. Just can't stand the dirty faces! Oh, and a revert to patch 7 lighting and color scheme is also something that must not be forgotten!

Haven't you shouted everywhere that the shove mechanic is perfect as it is right now ? Havent you created another reaction thread ?

Feedback is given again after every patches because """a handfull of people""" still have issues. Just check how many newcomers have created a shove or a reaction thread after patch 8 or look at reddit comments. Looks like the hand has many fingers.

Don't blame people for Larian's unability to provide a good and healthy EA experience with such an IP.

One minute, it's all: "We're making noise to get some changes and repeating ourselves because that's how you get results up in here!!!"


The next, it's: "Aw, shucks, ain't nobody countin' comments."

New people also show up somewhat regularly, especially after patches. I've seen a few posters with the "stranger" reputation posting in the past few days alone. And it'd be kind of sad/unfriendly if no one responded to their posts because we had already given our feedback...

I like this community better than Reddit. I don't post on the Reddit, only read sometimes.

Reddit seems more for casuals and this is the best group of people who really care about the game.

It would be cool if Larian surprised us heavy contributors with something on launch.

Reddit is much closer to what me and my friends exprerienced. Among my 6 firends who played the game, the general consensus was that other than gamebreaking events like sudden disconnections, the game is pretty much perfect and just need the release content to be available. I don't remember anyone complaining about any of the common subject that this forum love to be angry about.

Also I don't think Larian owe anything more to people who talk a lot, it would be neat for them to thanks those who reported bugs.

The upvote/downvote function sours Reddit as a forum in my eyes. Subreddits tend to attract "fandoms" and those groups tend to hold certain things sacred (such as the perfection of the property in question), so acting against the hivemind doesn't provoke well-reasoned arguments, but instead complete and utter silencing. It's a great place for BG3 memes though.

I noticed other reddits don't necessarily have people downvoting each other into oblivion even if they disagree. As far as games are concerned, it's futile trying to have a critical or constructive discussion in a fan house where criticism isn't tolerated and gets silenced. A "discussion" forum like that contributes to making humanity more stupid. It's no longer required to understand or explain why you like or dislike something, just join the mob to invalidate someone else's opinion.

It's either short memory or poor attention on your part, since while it's true that the BG3 subreddit currently is closer in vibe to a fanclub than a discussion board, they DO discuss frequently all the topics that are discussed here (or on Steam, ResetetEra, etc) and the general agreement seem to come pretty much to the same conclusions.

Of course, not as frequently as they love to spam a buttload of dumb memes, thirsty posts about getting more romance with their favorite characters or Astarion and Minthara fanart, but still.

You are not wrong ... when talking about certain individuals.
But in general, tie it to whole comunity ... it doesnt seem right.

But even if ...
You are giving them exactly the attention they wanted ... i know its not easy strugling with it myseft quite often around here but the best reaction seem to be no reaction at all.

How could anyone play the game how it's supposed to be played when enemies have a 3d4 + 9 bomb on them they hurl at your party followed by surface arrows.

1) The question of the topic is "the way you wish" ... not "it's supposed".
2) Where from do you get this "way it's supposed to be played" ? O_o

Same thing, Ragnarok. If I say it should be played a certain way or it's supposed to be a certain way, that's just me saying I wish it would work like that.