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I wish to see an adventure set in The Dalelands.
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I wish to see an adventure set in The Dalelands. I'd love that... the Dales, Cormyr and Cormanthor. Or if we absolutely have to stay in the Sword Coast region: the Moonshaes.
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I think BG2 showed us that Baldur's Gate as an IP doesn't necessarily need to be set in Baldur's Gate? Not to be negative about the notion of a new IP, but Baldur's Gate is just a very recognizable name.
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To be clear when I say that I never liked NWN 1 and 2 I'm not even talking strictly about the narrative, the characters, writing or what else.
I didn't like them on a mechanical level.
Not a fan of the way they looked ( I found the art in both games butt-ugly), and even less of the way they controlled and played.
EDIT: Also, I remember fiercely disliking the fact that NWN 1 moved away from being a party based game and focused on "Single character plus mercenary".
And to put things into context I'm not talking from a "modern perspective". I was there trying them when they were fresh releases. Yep, I concur. That said I did get a ton of mileage out of community made persistent worlds. 3T in particular. In fact I even got involved in its design and growth at one point. I always liked the concept of what could be done with nwn, more than the implementation itself.
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I wish to see an adventure set in The Dalelands. I'd love that... the Dales, Cormyr and Cormanthor. Or if we absolutely have to stay in the Sword Coast region: the Moonshaes. Another region - and one that is basically untouched by Forgotten Realms products - is the Great Ruins of Shoonach. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/uCSsvCv.jpeg) Situated on the border between Tethyr and Calimshan, it has much potential as an expansive above-ground dungeon.
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A grand adventure set in Waterdeep/Undermountain/Skullport, seeing as it's the biggest city in the realms.
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A journey through Rashemen and Thay. We've heard so much about it, how about we see it now.
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A journey through Rashemen and Thay. We've heard so much about it, how about we see it now. Well... you got a taste of it NWN 2: Mask of the Betrayer (which was a very good expansion).
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In an alternate universe, Larian got the Planescape IP from WOTC instead of the Baldur's Gate IP. Wonder how that might've turned out. Bet Lae'zel still would've been an Origin character, lol.
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In an alternate universe, Larian got the Planescape IP from WOTC instead of the Baldur's Gate IP. Wonder how that might've turned out. Bet Lae'zel still would've been an Origin character, lol. Probably a lot better since Planescape is more about weird stuff than the Forgotten Realms. It would certainly have fit their design philosophy a lot more.
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A journey through Rashemen and Thay. We've heard so much about it, how about we see it now. Well... you got a taste of it NWN 2: Mask of the Betrayer (which was a very good expansion). There's also Algarond: a sizeable region with a mystical forest and a noteworthy Half-Elf population that is ruled by a tempestuous sorceress-queen who holds Thay at bay. ![[Linked Image from img.mandarake.co.jp]](https://img.mandarake.co.jp/shopimg/00/00/160/933/0000160933_1.jpg) All three of those locales are detailed in Spellbound.
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In an alternate universe, Larian got the Planescape IP from WOTC instead of the Baldur's Gate IP. Wonder how that might've turned out. Bet Lae'zel still would've been an Origin character, lol. Probably a lot better since Planescape is more about weird stuff than the Forgotten Realms. It would certainly have fit their design philosophy a lot more. Also, the way Planescape: Torment was structured around the PC's pre-existing story heavily matches the Origin System. It also lends itself to a permutation-based design.
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Probably a lot better since Planescape is more about weird stuff than the Forgotten Realms. It would certainly have fit their design philosophy a lot more. Also, the way Planescape: Torment was structured around the PC's pre-existing story heavily matches the Origin System. It also lends itself to a permutation-based design. And combat would be an improvement!
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In an alternate universe, Larian got the Planescape IP from WOTC instead of the Baldur's Gate IP. Wonder how that might've turned out. Bet Lae'zel still would've been an Origin character, lol. Hrm. I dunno, I just don't see Larian doing the original game's writing justice (both in quality and volume). I wouldn't mind them having a go at NWN, tho. Edit: Tbf, I don't think any modern developer could do the game/IP justice. At least, I can't think of any...
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In an alternate universe, Larian got the Planescape IP from WOTC instead of the Baldur's Gate IP. Wonder how that might've turned out. Bet Lae'zel still would've been an Origin character, lol. Hrm. I dunno, I just don't see Larian doing the original game's writing justice (both in quality and volume). I wouldn't mind them having a go at NWN, tho. Edit: Tbf, I don't think any modern developer could do the game/IP justice. At least, I can't think of any... Not sure if I agree with your sentiment at all. I don't think Planescape: Torment is in need of a sequel, but it would be really nice to have a new game use the Planescape setting. I hardly think that just because Planescape: Torment was so good that no other developer should enter the City of Doors ever again. I'd like a completely different take on Sigil as a new Planescape IP, while leaving the door open for someone else to do a Planescape: Torment 2.
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In an alternate universe, Larian got the Planescape IP from WOTC instead of the Baldur's Gate IP. Wonder how that might've turned out. Bet Lae'zel still would've been an Origin character, lol. Hrm. I dunno, I just don't see Larian doing the original game's writing justice (both in quality and volume). I wouldn't mind them having a go at NWN, tho. Edit: Tbf, I don't think any modern developer could do the game/IP justice. At least, I can't think of any... Not sure if I agree with your sentiment at all. I don't think Planescape: Torment is in need of a sequel, but it would be really nice to have a new game use the Planescape setting. I hardly think that just because Planescape: Torment was so good that no other developer should enter the City of Doors ever again. I'd like a completely different take on Sigil as a new Planescape IP, while leaving the door open for someone else to do a Planescape: Torment 2. This already happened. inXile made Torment: Tides of Numenera. Not sure if it is any good though - I still haven't played it.
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Tides of Numenera does NOT use the Planescape setting.
It uses the… well, Numenera one.
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In an alternate universe, Larian got the Planescape IP from WOTC instead of the Baldur's Gate IP. Wonder how that might've turned out. Bet Lae'zel still would've been an Origin character, lol. Hrm. I dunno, I just don't see Larian doing the original game's writing justice (both in quality and volume). I wouldn't mind them having a go at NWN, tho. Edit: Tbf, I don't think any modern developer could do the game/IP justice. At least, I can't think of any... Not sure if I agree with your sentiment at all. I don't think Planescape: Torment is in need of a sequel, but it would be really nice to have a new game use the Planescape setting. I hardly think that just because Planescape: Torment was so good that no other developer should enter the City of Doors ever again. I'd like a completely different take on Sigil as a new Planescape IP, while leaving the door open for someone else to do a Planescape: Torment 2. Something else in-universe would be fine. But i can't picture any modern dev doing a sequel justice.
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Tides of Numenera does NOT use the Planescape setting.
It uses the… well, Numenera one. Yeah it was a whole legal thing. They got the rights to the "Torment" part of the property, but not the rights to the Planescape part.
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In an alternate universe, Larian got the Planescape IP from WOTC instead of the Baldur's Gate IP. Wonder how that might've turned out. Bet Lae'zel still would've been an Origin character, lol. Hrm. I dunno, I just don't see Larian doing the original game's writing justice (both in quality and volume). I wouldn't mind them having a go at NWN, tho. Edit: Tbf, I don't think any modern developer could do the game/IP justice. At least, I can't think of any... Not sure if I agree with your sentiment at all. I don't think Planescape: Torment is in need of a sequel, but it would be really nice to have a new game use the Planescape setting. I hardly think that just because Planescape: Torment was so good that no other developer should enter the City of Doors ever again. I'd like a completely different take on Sigil as a new Planescape IP, while leaving the door open for someone else to do a Planescape: Torment 2. Something else in-universe would be fine. But i can't picture any modern dev doing a sequel justice. I think using the setting, and maybe one or two companions from the original game, along with tying up some loose plot threads that were more tangential to Planescape Torment would be a very satisfying way to engage the Planescape IP. Avoiding being a direct sequel to Torment while still adequately calling back to what Torment did to make the property good. Bring in Nameless Origin Characters whose different lives you slowly unravel. But leave the continuing story of the Nameless One and the rest of the companions very, very vague, if it has to be in the new property at all.
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Also... an aside... There being a Baldur's Gate 4, or an expansion to BG3, is the only way I can accept the level cap in BG3. Why make a standalone game where you only cover a little more than half of the class content? It would be a shot in the foot.
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