I didnt say mage hand i said githyanki mage hand. I dunno if thats in DND?
Same thing, just invisible.
Diff labels and one is invisible and one isn't. Doesn't sound the same to me since only Githyanki can do this.
The point is either version of Mage Hand should not be able to Shove anything. Larian changed it because they like the OP slapstick style combat that degenerates into a shove fest rather than playing by D&D rules.
In DND can a player not say "I use mage hand to try and push soandso" and the DM would make you do some sort of roll / skill check or something? Like for abilities and things that aren't ACTUAL abilities or spells.
Also mage hand can "try" to shove anything. You'll almost never succeed unless it's invisible. So is the issue that a useless shove button is on a regular mage hand, that githyanki mage hand is invisible, that invisible = 100% shove success, or that a shove mechanic exists? (Sincerely just trying to figure out what part is the issue - I realize it sounds like I'm being a dick, just more interested in learning which part you don't like).
I don't play a ton of DND. So I'm being sincere, not a jerk. Sorry if it comes off that way. I thought DND allowed all kinds of flexibility with your imagination, it's just all about getting the dice roll and your proficiency).
