Originally Posted by mrfuji3
Originally Posted by Niara
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Monsters can't make critical hits, and only "attack rolls with a Weapon or an Unarmed Strike" can crit. Suck it casters.


..... Ummm..... WHAT?

- Monsters being unable to crit is ridiculous and stupid by ANYONE's metric
- Casters do NOT need any more nerfs.

Sorry, no, you can't have heard that right. I'm going to have to go watch that video now.
Reddit's repeated explanation for removing monster crits is that monsters have recharge abilities which suffices for the randomness. Plus, monster crits make it very (too?) easy and random to OHKO level 1 characters.

The exact line in the playtest pdf is "If a player character rolls a 20 for an attack roll with a Weapon or an Unarmed Strike...you roll the damage dice of the Weapon or Unarmed Strike a second time and add the second roll as extra damage." I.e., for sneak attack, smite, battlemaster maneuver, etc, additional dice aren't also doubled. For consistency, it makes perfect sense that spells wouldn't deal double damage because that'd be a lot of extra damage, whereas martials can add like 2d6 maximum (more likely 1d6 or 1d8) with normal weapons.

That said, I don't like making critical hits so wimpy. This is a huge nerf to rogues and paladins, a decent nerf to rangers, and even a nerf to battlemaster fighters. At least allow us to double our modifier to damage!

No. Spellcasters not critting is dumb to me. I launch a firebolt and hit a person in the face. He should be dead. That's a crit. Same as if I fire a crossbow and hit a person in the face. 1d10 with no bonus for spellcaster. 1d10 with bonus for fighter using heavy crossbow. No difference.

And we do Crits as you get max damage on your regular damage dice but roll for extra damage. Otherwise Crits feel nerfed a lot of times. My wife would swing a greataxe and Crit someone. "Yeah! Crit! Die orc!"

Rolls a total of 10 with 4d6+4. Wha wha! But if a crit does 16 + 2d6... Now it's like HECK YEAH! A CRIT! That may not be RAW, but it's a lot less disappointing for players.

Last edited by GM4Him; 19/08/22 03:05 AM.