Originally Posted by Saito Hikari
BG3 is probably the least ‘woke’ of them all. All onlookers should not make the mistake of assuming every character is made with a political message in mind.

No, I agree. Even with the druid grove plot and the ritual of thorns Khaga (was that her name?) deal, it was done very sensibly. That plot point could've been easily ruined by a sanctimonious activist wanting to hammer down a point, completely breaking the immersion - and I'm so glad it wasn't.

Originally Posted by AmuroSaotome
I find this type of discussion so amusing.

Quest about freeing slaves: Not Political
Gay couple happens to exist: POLITICAL! WOKE! SCANDELOUS EVEN!

that's the thing, it depends on how it's done. It's obvious that games will (and should) touch on political topics, it's only natural. The thing is that when it's done in a preachy, one-sided, void of nuance manner it becomes more of a propaganda piece and less of a game, more of a political statement than a story that is believable, intricate and relatable. Let me give you an example from Pathfinder tabletop I've heard being discussed about a year ago. They decided to do away with all mentions of slavery in the game... because slavery is obviously bad... but it's literally a game in which "bad" is almost a necessity so that there can be a plot in the first place. So, in the name of advancing a political message (one that will hardly find anyone in opposition pretty much anywhere) they're willing to compromise the game. See what I'm saying?

Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD
Or ... simply ... dont. smile
Especialy not two years late. laugh

No, I think I will. You're free to disagree with my takes, but I'm not here for cookies nor for your approval. I learned of something I feel strongly about and wanted to voice my opinion, and by doing so and discussing it with you guys it reassured me that my concerns were exaggerated. That's what a forum is for, exchanging experiences, no?