For the record, Tuco and Ragitsu,

I am in no way, shape, or form against your right to criticize Icelyn. Nine times out of ten, when it comes to qualitative mechanics in RPG systems, I am on your side of the argument. If you hate her approach to game philosophy, rip into it, please, by all means. If you think her views trivialize difficulty, say that. If you think her views encourage easy exploitation of any given mechanic, say that. I am completely in favor of qualitative debate, even the harshest and most vicious and most passionate kinds. I am not in favor of insults or namecalling based on people's opinions. That's it. If Icelyn is the Antichrist of your game philosophy, that's valid. But I would much rather a hundred posts explaining why you think that she's an Antichrist instead of a hundred posts (exaggerating for effect here) simply calling her the devil. And I would be happy to openly agree with either of you in the forum if you raised such points.

On people coming late to the discussion: Yes. I've been on the forum as a lurker for about a year, poster for about half. If it's been going on for longer than that, I imagine disagreeing with Icelyn all the time and thinking her points are harmful for the game would be very frustrating over time. I admit, I don't know the full history here, only what I assume to be most of it. That part's on me. I don't want everyone to be positive sunshine and rainbows. People who are mad that they aren't getting the experience they paid for in advance are allowed to voice their opinions. But insults (and really, specifically just the insults) get us nowhere and end up locking threads. I don't know about you guys, but I DON'T want this thread to be locked because I think people's most significant anxieties about the full release represent a VITAL FORM OF FEEDBACK. Perhaps some of the most important feedback as we reach late stages of development.

Edit: Added spoiler tags in response to Boblaw's correct concerns about drama getting the thread shut down. My goal is to say my two cents without derailing the thread. This is actually an important topic and I am not specifically trying to derail it. While I stand by what I said, I somewhat regret getting involved in the first place at this point and will certainly regret it if the thread gets shut down.


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