Oh, maybe it can fail then? It's been a while since I attempted to shove from stealth for [multitude of reasons] so this is based on what I've seen many others say. If it has normal failure chances, that's better.
Nope...I am mistaken. Just did a bunch of tests using an 8 STR shoving a 15STR from stealth and it seems to always succeed, so Niara is correct.
Based on these tests I have some other opinions. 1) We really need to see all rolls in the log. a)For the shove...why can't we see the check and roll? b)With a Character with +5 to stealth and advantage on stealth checks from Shadowheart, I still "lost hiding condition" a lot with no roll that showed me why. 2) I wonder (and hope) if stealth is already planned to be improved in at least one way in the future. When you stealth and move away, you frequently if not always leave a glowing halo behind. Whats the point of this? I would like to see AI path to that point to search for you instead of just staying in 1 spot like bozos.
