Originally Posted by Ranxerox
It sounds like you're just describing your preferred style of playing the game.
Good ...
Thats exactly what i did. smile

Originally Posted by Ranxerox
It sounded like you were claiming to speak authoritatively about some recognized "most effective way to play". Which obviously isn't a thing that could be defined.
Well ... maybe not defined, certainly not on general level, since effectivity depends on situation ...
But i think there is allways way in every certain situation to concider wich decision will give you most benefits in the end. wink

But quite honestly i was simply leaning to this forum ideas of effective gameplay ...
There is many people, at least some of them certainly a lot more experienced than me, claiming that nothing have any purpose in this game as long as you can easily push enemies out of the cliff with guaranted sucess, since you were invisible. laugh
Thats an example of effective gameplay.

I believe it was Niara (not sure tho), prime example of person who knows rules for tabletop a LOT better than me ... who said that Quickened spell is often used in order to free your action for things like Disengage, Dash, Dodge, Use, Help, etc.
Wich is effective way ...
You can ofcourse still use your action to cast a cantrip tho, but i admit i have hard time imagining situation where it would be the "most effective action" for you. :-/
Wich dont mean they dont exist! Just that i cant imagine any.
(Shocking huh? Once again what i said means litteraly what i said.)

And by the deffinition (duh) anything else than "most effective action" is less effective ... therefore since they are other options, there again logicaly have to be other play styles. wink

Originally Posted by Ranxerox
I'm guessing something is lost in translation in regards to your use of the word effective.
Its possible. smile

Originally Posted by Ranxerox
Still not sure where you're coming from or why you chose to characterize Icelyn as a player who doesn't play in the "most effective way"
Observation.

To me Icelyn seems like person who simply want to have fun in this game ... maybe dont even care about the rules too hard ... who simply pick things that she either likes, or are curious about, rather than calculating for several minutes wich enemy she should attack first, what spell she should use if any in the first place, etc.

And since she didnt object against this characterization ... not now, nor in the past when i made it aswell ... i dare to presume my guess was at least not wrong enough to offend her. wink

Still can be wrong tho ... that is certainly true ... but i honestly believe that in this case, im not. smile

Originally Posted by Ranxerox
"most effective way" which seems to really mean "the RagnarokCzD way"
I must admit ... i wonder where you get that impression ...
Concidering that i litteraly described you that im often doing the exact oposite ... but i presume you simply left out some important part of that post. :-/

Now, shall we return to The Circlet of Fire? laugh


I still dont understand why cant we change Race for our hirelings. frown
Lets us play Githyanki as racist as they trully are! frown