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Originally Posted by MelivySilverRoot
I have seen several such jokes that day ...
Wouldnt see any hints behind that specificaly, it seemed to me like someone in Larian just didnt want to stay behind, when other companies get free atention from curently popular joke. :-/

That ghost seems more promising tho.


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Originally Posted by MelivySilverRoot
I have seen several such jokes that day ...
Wouldnt see any hints behind that specificaly, it seemed to me like someone in Larian just didnt want to stay behind, when other companies get free atention from curently popular joke. :-/

Yeah, I thought about that after 😅 It looked like that sort of thing.

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That ghost seems more promising tho.

I wonder, is the fact that they posted on a Chinese platform significant?
A potential connection : Monk class > Buddhist monks > Buddhist monastic practices mostly found in Asia (Tibet, East Asia and South Asia) which includes China.

Or, is it the relation to Halloween that significant? Then, the connection might be :
A) Panel from Hell > Hell > Monsters and devils > Halloween.
B) Paladin > Fighting evil (typically) > Monsters and devils > Halloween.

I guess that's not helping with so many possibilities 😅

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Originally Posted by MelivySilverRoot
I wonder, is the fact that they posted on a Chinese platform significant?
A potential connection : Monk class > Buddhist monks > Buddhist monastic practices mostly found in Asia (Tibet, East Asia and South Asia) which includes China.

Or, is it the relation to Halloween that significant? Then, the connection might be :
A) Panel from Hell > Hell > Monsters and devils > Halloween.
B) Paladin > Fighting evil (typically) > Monsters and devils > Halloween.

I guess that's not helping with so many possibilities 😅

If so, it could be a Shadow Monk or something completely surprising instead of the expected Monk / Pala the Blood Hunter is around the corner... Order of Lycan and Order of the Ghostslayer would definitely fit Halloween thematically. But I would prefer to see the Profane Soul subclass.

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BG3 community when Larian post anything after months of drought :

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Originally Posted by MelivySilverRoot
I wonder, is the fact that they posted on a Chinese platform significant?
Wouldnt say so ...
If i remember corectly, its just yet another platform where they are comunicating (for lack of better term) with their audience.

There was some speculations about monk few patches back, when people seen that Tiger icon on Malaysia-studio related prospects. smile
I would presume that this case is simmilar. laugh

BUT!
If Larian will post a Ghost on other social media in next few days, maybe that Reddit is on right track. smile


Originally Posted by MelivySilverRoot
Or, is it the relation to Halloween that significant?
If it is significant ...
It would most likely be just bcs thats when PFH would be happening, or bcs that would be PFH theme ... but i wouldnt see any ingame content related to that. smile

The only ingame thing that could teoreticaly be related to Halloween (as far as i know) is Necromancer ...
Death Domain Cleric, Gloom Stalker Ranger, Phantom Rogue, Shadow Magic Sorcerer, and maybe Oathbreaker Paladin ... but those seems a little far fetched. laugh

I mean no holiday related content was released so far ...
And it was not for lack of chances, last time people speculated about Valentine patch. smile

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I imagine Paladin and Monk are ready to go. You'd have to think they have been ready to go for a while now.

That being said patches seem to have been coming out every four or five months. The Bard patch came out on July 7th, I think? So at the end of October we would be right around four months. It is possible that we would get something on or around Halloween. But I think the previous patch schedule likely puts us on more of a Christmas time patch.

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I thought that companies often tend to avoid end of the year ...
Wich makes sense, most people (at least most people i know) have by that time different priorities than games.


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Originally Posted by Vitani
You would need to actually work in a big office enviroment to get it I guess, if you can't imagine the scale of disruption of half your crew working remotely, some on shitty home hardware.

Don’t get me wrong I understand it’s been disruptive, but almost every large company adapted pretty quickly to a new reality. Even super conservative old school places rolled with it and have reaped the rewards. I worked at the best/largest shop through the pandemic and it was easy to have a zoom call at 8.30 and say right today I’m doing X, you’re doing Y and they’re doing Z. There’s probably an argument in the hardware at home not being of the same standard for something specialised like game development but then they probably sold 3 x what they expected in EA. Pony up for the hardware at home if you need to so you can deliver. I don’t feel it’s as material factor as it’s made out to be.


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As an aside... the extreme vast majority of people I've interacted with over the past three years have all, more or less unanimously, reported that working remotely has been the biggest boon and improvement not only to their lifestyle, but also to their effectiveness, their efficiency and their productivity, as well as being a massive reduction in stress. They discovered that so much office time wasted in various meetings was, indeed, wasted and unnecessary, and that most of them found the idea of going back to the way it was before to be a genuinely horrific idea. In fact, the only people I've encountered who didn't find it an improvement were middle-management workers whose primary job was wrangling team members into status reports, productivity meetings and other organisational faff - they found their jobs harder to do while workers were working remotely, while those workers were swiftly discovering that said wranglers were largely unnecessary at the end of the day.

Spot on comments.

I don’t want to get stuck debating Covid, the point is more that I feel they’ve missed a huge opportunity and have delivered a poor EA experience for people that bought in.

Let’s see if they deliver a good final product. Hopefully I’m wrong but I expect based on EA it will be ok to good, but perhaps not great.

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Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD
There is old saying in Czech: Hundert times nothing killed the donkey. wink

I give you an example ...
Its not my own, its from my friend who is working in gamedevelopment in CDPR ...

She send a message to colleague askind for some data ...
He answered in an hour ... bcs he was doing something and (as most people i know) didnt check his emails every few seconds. laugh
But he forgot to add attachment to that answer email ... so she had to ask again.
The second answer took him another hour.

That are two hours wasted for something they would regulary manage to do in few seconds. laugh

Now ... all you need to do is multiply. smile
This was single colleague, single problem, resolved just once ... presuming she would be so unlucky with two collagues twice per week during that homeoffice timet ...

For half year (dunno how long it was in Belgium tho) it would mean aproximately:
6(months)*4(weeks)*2(cases)*2(hours) = 96h of delay ...
So things that would regulary take her hardly more than 15-30 minutes ... is being resolved for 4 whole days.

And that is still for only one person.

Now imagine that there are dozens (in Larian cases even hunderts) of people whos work is dependent on someone else work ...
So thanks to this ... several dozens of people cant continue bcs they dont have foundation from my friend, who is waiting to someone else ... and another dozens are waiting for them and so on and so forth ... you get the idea. smile

Or you can ignore all this for simplicity and presume that stretching go all the same ...
So if something that would take an 1 hour lets say for simplicity ... took them 100h, rounded up, again for simplicity ...
Something that woul take them a Month would take them? laugh

I know this is false math ...
But just to imagine the scale it can work. smile

Its called chain reaction. laugh
One splitted attom is not a problem ... what happens afterwards is what makes people affraid. wink

Love the expression re donkeys.

Is people being inefficient at work different between a pre and post Covid environment though? I’d argue that in all jobs across circumstances you won’t ever be at 100% capacity/efficiency. Anyway, I’m here to not talk about work, chopping up enemies is much more interesting!

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Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD
I thought that companies often tend to avoid end of the year ...
Wich makes sense, most people (at least most people i know) have by that time different priorities than games.

I'm more saying late November or early December - not something actually on Christmas or during Christmas week. Just something close enough where they can do a Christmas theme or something like that.

Also - tons of companies and games release stuff around the holidays. It tends to boost sales. There is a reason Starfield was targeting 11/11 and Cyberpunk released too early - they want the holiday sales and money.

If BG3 can produce a release date (which who knows if they have a date in mind yet) - then this could lead to more preorder sales around the holidays.

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Originally Posted by Wormerine
What bothers me about BG3 is preciely lack of a coherent artistic vision. It's a product aimed at as wide of an audience as possible, toughing everything and focusing on nothing. Not doing anything interesting as an RPG, not having interesting story to tell.
C'mon, you have at the best 20% of the game and story, how you can tell about story quality when you've seen literally nothing?
A far better defence, is that what he have is unfinished therefore it could improve before 1.0. Sure, the story could get better later on sure, but even if it does "the game gets really good after first xx hours" is not exactly a great trait to have. We have a decent chunk of game's opening and it's - meh? As an RPG in particular, I would point out the lack on narratively interesting choices to make.


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That is a harsh thing to say. Thanks to it, I was able to play a CRPG with two friends who would have never played a CRPG otherwise. We had a very good time thanks to presentation and the streamlined game play,
I am glad to hear it. I am just curious, what do you mean by "streamlined"? That is definitely not what I would call BG3. It is one of a more granual RPGs I played in a long time - I just don't think it does much with it. I would describe both PoEs as far more steamlined.

Anyway, it doesn't matter. BG3 is shaping to be an ok game, with unprecedented high production for the genre. I was more irritated at @Hichigo's silly defence, then game itself at this point.

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Originally Posted by Wormerine
I am glad to hear it. I am just curious, what do you mean by "streamlined"? That is definitely not what I would call BG3. It is one of a more granual RPGs I played in a long time - I just don't think it does much with it. I would describe both PoEs as far more steamlined.

Can't talk for my friends there. My guess is that BG3 has multiple things going that makes it appealing for many. Some of them in no particular orders :
It has a very high production value with those cut scenes that hook you as soon as you launch a game.
The character creator is welcoming with its "sims-like" approach to it. You get attached to your Tav very quickly.
It has multiplayer, which makes it waaay more fun. It also allows the game to be promoted by big names in the Youtube and Twitch domain. Oon the french side we had a BG3 playthrough with 400k views, which is unthinkable for other CRPG out there.
The rule set is based on DnD5 which is one of the most casual system out there. The early access is quite easy, there aren't any fight you can't win without going for meta plays of hyper optimized builds.

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Originally Posted by snowram
BG3 community when Larian post anything after months of drought :

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Yes. Meanwhile I can picture Sven and the rest of the team reading the forums (or atleast bits of it) laughing and saying stuff like "look at the fools, their brains running around in circles trying to find a clue that isn't there. Think we can have more fun with them posting an emoticon? Hahaha, idiots"

hmm, I wonder if a student in psykology, given access to both the forums and the in house knowledge of a developer, would be able to write a doctoral thesis on it?


Yes, what I just wrote above isn't fair but I'm getting cranky. And we all know that if nothing gets announced for halloween we will just a get post one day afterwards assuring us that the game is still in progress and that the wait for news will be sooooo worth it.
As if.

ok. rant over.

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Originally Posted by PrivateRaccoon
look at the fools, their brains running around in circles trying to find a clue that isn't there.
What have 4 letters, sometimes 9 letters, but never 5 letters

You know this puzzle? laugh

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Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD
Originally Posted by PrivateRaccoon
look at the fools, their brains running around in circles trying to find a clue that isn't there.
What have 4 letters, sometimes 9 letters, but never 5 letters

You know this puzzle? laugh

That is the answer. But what is the question :P

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Violence is never the answer ... violence is the question, and answer is yes! :P


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Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD
Violence is never the answer ... violence is the question, and answer is yes! :P
😂 That’s gave me a good laugh, thank you.

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Due to the latest movements os social networks, I think we´ll have an anouncement this week, probably thursday, and a new PFH next week, around halloween. My guesses are monks and maybe (to calm people frustration for taking 2 years of EA) a new location: the shadowland (at least a bit piece of it), and with it, new monsters like that shadow dog modders got from datamining months ago, wich Larian has just dropped a hint on twitter (I believe).
Of course I dont have the absolute truth and all of this may just be the result of my HUGE HYPE.
Fingers crossed anyway.

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Originally Posted by Elrion
My guesses are monks

Monks on halloween? RIOT.

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