Originally Posted by Piff
In Pathfinder 2e your ASIs come from a combination of your ancestry, background AND class. It's more involved than 5e, but with a little less emphasis on roleplay and a lot more on crunching stats.

While I'm not totally sold on the P2e character creation as a whole, I think having your ASIs come from both race and background is better than one or the other. I personally would also add more than one to pick from, so you would be picking from a selection for both race and background to create your increases.
No. In Patfinder 2 the RACES does give:
your Ability Boost = +2
Example if your Ability Boost Strength
then:
Strength (+2)

Well and also in Pathfinder you get hitpoint from your RACES.

In DnD 5 if GM say so then Races does give Ability. That you can change the ability for races in DND 5.0 is a very optional rule that many GM say no to and in PC game BG3 you can not change the Ability from races.
[bIn Patfinder 2 Races does give Ability.[/b]
That means race does mean a lot indeed. Background in DnD 5.0 does give skills and some other maybe.

I must say I am not a fan of DND4 system really (Dnd 5 is also much more easy to learn for new players then DND4), but I did play 1.5 year with my PC as computer game Neverwinter MMO that is DND4.0 mixed with Action Combat system. Pathfinder 2 is not easy? Perhaps, but it reminds a lot of DND 3.5 and anyone that has played DND 3.5 will have more easy to adapt to Pathfinder 2.

I think Dungeons Dragons 5.0 and Pathfinder 2 are both excellent. However this The One D&D project does not sound good at all since races really never do not matter for Ability. It sounds like me and many other will never play the One D&D project system at least if it is not computer /console game.

I have had long break from pen and paper playing for years.
That said currently I play once/week on weekends pen and paper Dungeons Dragons 5.0 through distance play using Discord voice system and ROLLD20 system for map, character and monster tokens and roll dice. Distance play has also become more popular due to COVID 19 risk and more easy to find enough players for the group specially if you want 6 players+GM group and many want at least 4 players+GM.

Last edited by Terminator2020; 23/10/22 11:07 PM.