Which is precisely my point and why I mentioned objectification.

Breasts being sexual regardless of the circumstances is basically sexual objectification which women suffer from to this very day and is the whole core of the issue as unfortunately because of this, the world of man keeps imposing stupid rules upon women for more than 2000 years now because little Dick Johnson cannot control the thing between his legs. These taboo in modern society are not made because of a wise society for the betterment of the world, but a dumb one that keeps oppressing women due to its own lack of control.

It is a problem exclusively caused by men, yet the solution according to society is to restrict and oppress women... instead of educating men on how to behave and treat women.

  • Why should a woman hide her breasts, but not a man? Because man said so.
  • Why should a woman hide her ankles, but not a man? Because man said so.
  • Why should a woman hide her feet, but not a man? Because man said so.
  • Why should a woman hide her hair, but not a man? Because man said so.
  • Why should a woman have to dress properly, but not a man? Because man said so.
  • Why does a man decide how a woman should dress and act? Because men sexually objectify women.
  • How would you feel if a woman told you what you can and cannot wear and make laws with consequences that you have to follow?


Nudity was first glorified and seen as a symbol of strength and health. Sculptured by the Gods and being blessed by the Gods was a term to describe someone beautiful and healthy in such day and age. And through time women went from admired beings to being reduced to sexual bits, which caused an insane downright spiral of restrictions, rules and punishments which to this day affect women and the thinking of modern society.

  • A woman was started to be seen as an inferior sex with her only purpose being a breeding stock for a man
  • Then women were started to be seen as bad luck and not allowed in many aspects of society because they could distract men
  • Then women were actively hunted, tortured, burned and executed by the Church Inquisition for not being holy and pure
  • Then women were started to be seen as witches and once again burned for casting spells to control weak-minded men
  • Then in the Victorian age women were expected to dress and behave accordingly. Showing an ankle was considered a sexual scandal and behaving outside the norm a woman was considered a slut
  • Then in the 20th century a woman would be lobotomized for not behaving according to society's view of ladyship and the vast majority of lobotomized patients were exclusively women
  • Then in the modern times women still lack certain rights due to 2000 years of men's oppression against women due to sexual objectifications
  • Western world sees breasts as taboo while Eastern world sees an entire woman as a taboo
  • In the Eastern culture, a sexually raped woman will be imprisoned and punished if she was deemed to not be dressed properly. A woman accused by a man of unfaithfulness may be sentenced to death by stoning.
  • In the entire world breasts are seen as taboo because the mistake of men 2000 years ago is still being dragged along which is why you think breasts are sexual and should be censored.


All of this is exactly because of sexual objectification.

Even as a European myself I witnessed this shit with my very own eyes. My mother who is an absolute professional and was the best in her line of work before switching careers, had a meeting with the President to establish trade routes with another country and then had a meeting with subordinates to make the deal go through. The entire business plan failed because one guy on the board could not control himself and told her he will only allow the deal to go through if she lets him f*** her, despite her being absolutely professional and professionally clothed.

Female Twitch streamers had rules imposed upon them because men with foot fetishes kept harassing them constantly and sexually objectifying them by asking to show feet, despite most girls being completely normal streamers. Instead of getting rid of the bullies, rules were instead imposed upon women once again. Bare feet were not allowed whatsoever and showing feet would end in a ban.

Today... a woman comes on the forum to request a topless feature in a game that features full nudity and explicit sex scenes and suddenly it's a big taboo for Baldur's Gate to have a topless feature because breasts are apparently sexual even though a woman DOES NOT sexualize her breasts. So once again the cycle continues. Man imposes what a woman can and cannot do because a man has no self-control, even in an artform that is supposed to serve as escapism as it always has been for thousands of years.

TLDR: Reality sucks. The way this failed society treats women is shit. And art instead of being contrary to the norm, is instead conforming to the norm.[/quote]

Originally Posted by Crimsomrider
Nobody here is talking about inappropriate public appearances though nor saying that going to a shop dressed like they're going to a beach is normal. Naturally it isn't, but this is not even remotely what my point is about, as my point is about breasts not being a sexual body part.

The only sexual body parts are the penis and the vagina. Hair, eyes, lips, breasts, hands, waist, butt, thighs, legs, feet, even a body figure... can all be sexually attractive, but they are not inherently sexual even if they may attract. Yet the sexual objectification of men towards these body parts is what ends up creating oppression and rules for women, which is why I said everything I said because whatever men sexually objectify ends up oppressing women and new rules being imposed upon them. So by doing that, society is not fixing the problem but shifting the responsibility upon women.

Case and point, the streamer Susu. Her toe emote got deleted not once, but twice even after being edited. Because men sexually objectified her feet to such extent that instead of punishing the horny boys who cannot control themselves and getting them off the platform, Susu was instead punished. Why is she being punished for something that is completely normal to her and not sexual, which is her very own feet. And she has gone on record several times expressing deep hatred for foot fetishists who keep ruining everything.

Same with streamer Marz, who is a photo model. Because in some of her Instagram posts she was barefoot, this attracted a massive surge of imbeciles who made her so uncomfortable that now she actively goes out of her way to make sure her feet are never shown in photos. And if they are, she will cover them up with emojis or blur them out. So are feet now a sexual body part and women should hide their feet? Why are girls being punished for a problem caused by men? Well... that is explained by my very long post above.

It is like someone pointing a gun at you and the officer instead of solving the problem by disarming the guy about to kill you, instead gives you a bulletproof vest so you can soak in the bullets. That's what society does and has been doing to women. Men are the problem, but the responsibility is always shifted to women.

A woman should be able to go to a beach and be topless freely just like men are, same as women in this game should be able to be topless just like men are, same as they should be barefooted if they want to. Women should not be oppressed just because a guy gets a hard on. And yes unfortunately it is oppression, because women are not asked to hide their breasts, they're forced to, just like they're forced to wear hijabs in some countries and the whole burka in others. Very big difference.

+1

Yes a curse of patriarchy. It starts harmlessly and gradually increases. I have so often met young guys in the work context, who then said to me in a chummy way, if they are smiled at by a woman, then this means that the woman wants something from them or is into them. This circumstance wanted to know confirmed with their question with me. Such an expectation is of course bullshit. The next stage in such a moronic attitude are then such sayings as: She wants / wanted it but not otherwise, she dresses but so... I think I don't need to elaborate on this pathetic behavior.


Originally Posted by Crimsomrider
I don't know what their official DnD categorization is, but they are completely sentient and literally just a female elf nude body with bird-like hands, feet and wings.

So to me they're more like a tribal half-humanoid, similar to Centaurs who are half-human/half-horse or Mermaids who are half-woman/half-fish. A monstrosity to me is something like a Minotaur, which has no humanoid characteristics considering it is an upright walking bull on steroids.

I see it the same way. I can also imagine Nymphs / Dryads very well as naked beings who appear "by nature in the Adam costume". Or Mizora and other Succubi / Incubi could be completely naked (as higher level opponents) and try to seduce their prey. All the mentioned are more humanoid than monstrous.