Aight, I'll take the bait. To preface, I have access to D:OS2 text files, and the wiki can be edited by anyone and their grandma if they feel like it.
> While Zorl-Stissa and the lizards u...hey are not related to the true dragons.
The trivia under the article is never stated outright in any game or appendix
Now, as far as TRP's origin is concerned. If Dragons are the creation of Ouroboros, how come the following can be true:
<content contentuid="h9d12c689g0394g49dbg9271g652f153b2348">I was told that lizards used to be Great Red Dragons once and that they can be again! It is an incredible story, but should I unite with the Red Princess, we will sire dragons. The Red Princess is close by: only a short journey to the north away.</content>
<content contentuid="h040dcbc3gb0d0g4c94g80f9g594e7d468ff1">But the House of Dreams trades in prophecy. They've always known we could be dragons again, for <i>'one day a man and a woman will be born, and their skin will be red, and the fruit of their union will be Great Red Dragons'.</i></content>
<content contentuid="h0375362eg79e9g477fg88e0ge12aaf689a20">*Indeed. You met with her, lay with her. Say she'll soon be the mother of dragons.*</content>
If:
Fane recognizes lizards as Zorl-Stissa's:
content contentuid="h8dc75379gade9g4876g963ag7375a43159fb">Lady Zorl-Stissa, I must commend you on your reptiles. Every one is as arrogant as you.</content>
And Aetera recognized Zorl-Stissa as an Eternal Lord:
<content contentuid="h8b306751gdf6bg4e6bgbc54g43e79ad8b6c2">Zorl-Stissa! What- what <i>happened </i>to you? Did you truly fall so far?</content>
Lizards cannot be Seven's Source Vats designed from scratch by their God to act as cattle AND descend from said 'Red Dragons' simultaneously. There is not a line in the game that detaches lizards form Ouroboros' creations. The trivia in the wiki is the common sense that the game lacks to acknowledge. There never were any other dragons BUT Ouroboros' kin. The 'plot hole' you insist I confuse is the lack of addressing what we know from the old lore and what has been brought in the new iteration. The relation between Ancient Dragons and Eternals is also nonexistent, and the wiki only assumes a possible one.
> Nothing I could find on the wiki pages suggests those are source skills. You can see spirits with source, OR you can have silver eyes and see them with those which is not the spirit vision ability.
<content contentuid="h7341fdd9g0da7g4740g9ab1g75826d2cb4ec">That's who the other Godwoken will meet in their own souls, by the by. Shrivelled, half-dead gods looking to steal Source from their chosen in exchange for the power to see spirits.</content>
<content contentuid="h46943f28ga9afg40d4g965cg3a0eb9c1f9c0">Your vision has been restored, giving you the power to see spirits - the souls of dead mortals made manifest in Source.</content>
<content contentuid="h0ec86825g4a9fg4870gbdafgf8c40cbcb83b">Source connects you to your companions even when you're apart, allowing you to <font color="008858">listen</font> to their important moments. Since you are not nearby for this conversation, your companion will participate in it alone.</content>
Spirits are interchangeably Source according to the new lore/retcon:
<content contentuid="hf8eb276ag7e86g41fag86c8gebdf1de0a684">Source <i>is</i>. It is a constant, a subject of neither time nor transience. All of life is Source, and in Source it <i>is</i>. Immortally so.</content>
>Also googling about dragon knights being "source-dependent"
Well, yeah. Trust me, googling 'how to cure cancer' will yield astonishing results if you don't know what to look for. Let's make a reading comprehension test. The subject is 'the storytelling of Slane's state during the Radeka quest'. I'll allow myself to cut the file artefacts out for clarity.
*The freed dragon looks sick and pale. As you approach, he stretches his tattered wings weakly and fixes his intense gaze upon you. Frozen tears glint in his eyes.*
*Slane rears back in eagerness, grasping the Purging Wand with razor-sharp claws. Before your eyes, the Source from within the wand surges into his draconic form, filling him with a light so bright that you must shield your eyes from the glare.*
*The blazing brightness dies down. Squinting, you now see no dragon before you - but the figure of a handsome lizard, a handsome lizard with the same eyes as Slane.*
As dos2 puts it, purged, or Sourceless dragon knights CANNOT use their shape-shifting skill.
Radeka told us that Slane was once her lover, but she punished him for lying by purging him, transforming him into a dragon.
As for the rest, I believe you're the one confused. As the game (wrongfully) puts it - all of Source is gone. All. Of. It.
When we are done, there shall be no more Source in the world. No more gods. No more worship. No more war. No more chaos. No more demons. No more Voidwoken. Rivellon will have peace at last.
But let's put it aside and talk about purging exclusively since you mix and match a lot of themes here.
About Purging Wands: More than mere weapons. Traps, purging wands, war wagons - every tool Braccus needed to bend the world to his will.
Madam
Your techniques have proven most effective. A true marvel! Odd that the Source King had this technology so long ago, but managed to keep it quite secret.As to the technical matters: The monks do listen, but they are so listless and dull. They respond, but they do not engage.Would it not be possible, perhaps better, if they obeyed of their own accord? My mind races with the possibilities: Obedience through free will – a will shaped by the Order itself.Then we might at last have the army the Divine dreamed of, may his spirit rest in peace
Yours forever in service, Orivand
Monks are created ONLY through Braccusian Purging - since it was designed to create slaves.
Fane got purged as well, resulting in similar degradation to Slane, but no mindlessness.
Alexandar's purge through Aetheran (Act 3 cutscene) resulted in his death and, if I remember correctly, the disappearance of his spirit as well.
Now, bearing all of the above in mind.
>The island's consciousness originated in source and existed since the earliest days of rivellon (didn't manifest in source after the purge)
Well, uh duh. But we know how Aetheran works - it sucks out literally everything. Assume Source is water. Now let's remove all water from our world. Do polar glacials still stand in their place? That's how the purge is presented by the end of act 4 and the epilogue and this is the reason why it's wrong. Sentinel Island still has consciousness, there is still SOURCE about. While it technically shouldn't. Doesn't this count as a plot hole?
Looking forward to your google-fueled answer,
sincerely,
Faneposter
