Originally Posted by snowram
I feel like those points don't and wont stop BG3 from ticking all 3 boxes for the vast majority of players.
I think the way to think about it is what fuels main engagement from players. Every game will have some kind of story, some kind of challenge and some kind of catharsis.

Spider-Man is a good example - it actually has a lengthy and pretty well put together story and there is a lot to like there. It also had decent combat with some neat optional challenges for various of it's system. But the game primarily relies on rushes player gets from ticking off boxed, swinging on the web and kicking butts of easy to beat enemies.

I am not saying that BG3 has no compelling characters, no compelling story beats or no challenge - just what fuels its engagement.

I didn't create this thread to necessarily criticise BG3, but this way of thinking make we wonder how BG3 does and doesn't engage me. That is an interesting question to me, asit is a game theoretically I should love, it being a top down cRPG and Baldura Gate IP on top, and it is a mixed experience for me.