Originally Posted by azarhal
Larian isn't to blame. The goblins path is the story evil path, aka the path where the bad guys (the Absolute) win. It's not the path evil characters must take to show they are evil. A cleric/paladin of an evil god or any evil characters who aren't interested in become lackeys to the Absolute has zero reasons to join up with Minthara and her gang. They should just ignore both groups and move on, but as an evil cleric/paladin massacring the goblins and their leaders is a much better approach since destroying other gods worshippers is part of the job. That it save the grove is just collateral damage, but then you can also kill the grove and the goblins so...
That's my point. Most evil characters wouldn't actually want to join the cult, yet Larian clearly advertised that path as "siding with Evil" and representing what evil characters would (want to) do.

Originally Posted by azarhal
Paladins with Oaths of Devotion can't tell lies, "tell no lies" is one of their oath. They are based off the classic pre-5e Paladins. A Paladin of Vengeance would just chop that criminal's head off instead so no need to lie there either....
Okay, sure, but a.) you're focusing on the "Paladin" aspect, not the "Lawful" aspect, and b) there are other paladin orders - your point just proves that some Paladins won't lie.

Replace Paladin in my example with Ranger or Fighter or Wizard. They can still be lawful and lie.
Or, Lawful Paladin with Oaths of the Watchers would perfectly fit my example -> lawful and able to lie, if it's for the Greater Order.