Originally Posted by neprostoman
I hope you are not referring to me because I never said that THIS is hypocrisy. Hypocrisy is to include non-binary ideas by restricting the perceptional freedom of others. Even more so physical freedom. Inclusion at the cost of exclusion - that is what I was talking about. But you are right that there is nothing in the game right now to fit into that category. I have no problem with them adding an optional choice. But again, I was just saying that we need to consider that there might be people who are justly alarmed by this direction in development, because there are IRL and media examples where things got pretty absurd.

Okay, I know that I said I’d shut up but I clearly didn’t explain myself well so I will try one more time. I was indeed responding to you and I think we do disagree (though respectfully I hope!) as what I was trying to say is that “inclusion at the cost of exclusion” is not necessarily hypocrisy. It might be if one thought that inclusion was a good in and of itself and should be extended equally to all viewpoints, values, identities and so on, but I don’t and personally am happy to prioritise inclusion of trans representation over the alarm of those who are disturbed by it and don’t see any inconsistency there. Of course, I wish that people weren’t upset and disturbed by such representation and would prefer everyone to be happy, but unfortunately that’s not going to be the case and I’m not in favour of compromising on trans representation to calm the distress of those who don’t want to see it, however good or poor their reason (that is, I don’t think there is any reason for not wanting to see trans representation in game that I would accept as good enough to justify excluding it).

Larian as the content creators of course need to decide how they’re going to balance the views of people like myself with those who disagree, but I’m just a member of the gaming public so am in the fortunate position of not having to accomplish this admittedly tricky and sensitive task. I’m just expressing my view so that Larian can take it into consideration along with everyone else’s.


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