Here is another complain about shove. Seriously what are you waiting for to turn it into a full action ? I really hope you will because it can really RUIN the game.

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Seriously it is NOT fun !
Sure I could smile, laugh a lot, reload and hope that my characters will resist next time ! But it does not make me laugh AT ALL. It is really infuriating and this is just ONE combat (probably the worst of all).
The only possibility Larian gives us in this combat is LUCK and luck being the only reason for a victory/defeat in a tactical turn based game just SUCK.


20 goblins can just dash + shove = Insta KILL.
Minotaurs can just jump + push = Insta KILL.
Dror Razglin can just scream + push = Insta KILL.
Druergar can just shoot an arrow + push = Insta KILL.
Hooked horror can just jump + push = Insta KILL.
Bulette can jump + push = Insta KILL.
and so on, and so on, and so on. Insta KILL is everywhere.

We can even Insta KILL the Matriarch... Seriously it is so lame !

There are a lot too many possibilities to push and shove in the game and despite your """"efforts"""" to balance it, in a game with dices some players will always be frustrated like I am if you don't balance these mechanics better !

On top of that it really SUCK for melee characters ! Shove to disengage.
It SUCK for the sleep spells and sleeping potions ! Shove to wake characters up.

I don't even understand that you still didn't realize how stupid the mechanic currently is.
Sorry to write like this but I'm really annoyed !

Many players have reported EVERYWHERE (reddit, steam, here, other forums) that shove is broken since 2 years and you mostly have done nothing to solve this issue. That's a shame.

I like being able to shove and I like having to care about my position. But that's NOT what BG3 is currently offering in MANY situations.. and probably ALL situations if you haven't played the game for HOURS previsouly (metagaming).
Shove/push is just BROKEN.

It is completely :
- overpowered which may make the game a lot too easy
- it may make the game frustrating as hell
- it make some skills/spells mostly useless (sleep, sleeping potion, help,...)
- and some valuable tactics for melee characters are just completely useless (AOO, threatened ennemies,...) .

Make shove a full action for the sake of this game ! It could not be worse as it currently is !

Last edited by Maximuuus; 20/12/22 10:12 AM.

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