Originally Posted by 1varangian
Originally Posted by TomReneth
I would be fine with losing out on shoving multiple times per turn as a martial to change it to a full action, or even removing the ability entirely, and nerfing the distance to 5ft according to tabletop rules. Anything, ANYTHING, to keep enemies from spamming bonus action shove to try to instant kill the player, which is seriously problematic in some fights.
A 5th level Fighter getting to Shove twice per turn is not a problem as long as the distance is cut down to 5ft (from 20ft+ currently). They would have to trade damage for those shoves which would make it a tactical choice instead of an OP no brainer gimmick to be used every turn as a bonus.

An attack action Shove would also compete with Pushing Attack and every other form of action that pushes, instead of the player getting to do both.


I agree it wouldn't be a problem, but i think that as things are now, simply making shove an action is preferable. Anything to be rid of the current state of affairs. I'd even prefer not having shove at all to this widespread instant death nonsense


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