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"Why should I put point in Con"?? So you don't like HPs? Or bonuses to Con saves?
I'm not saying we should be able to stack 50 spells. No. I don't want that either. But they got rediculous with the spell list that DOES require concentration. You basically get to select ONE concentration spell among all the options and forget the rest. Yeah that's a lot of fun. Give me this nice list of spells but I really only get to cast 3 of them. Lol.

Low HP don't matter much if you don't get hit. Cons saves can be mitigated with potions (i.e. Poison etc.) .

I mean personally, I never "forget the rest" of the spells I need concentration for. It just required smarter thinking to know which of the spells you can stack, like Blur and Mirror Image and Aid and False Life and Mage Armor (if you are unarmored Mage), Haste, Giant Hill potion..... see how many things that already can be stacked there?

So no, I don't think we need to remove concentration. Game already relatively balanced so excessive stacking become unnecessary.

And yes, that's *a lot* of fun.

Edit: Stacking 3 debuffs is more than enough in a fight. Even in current Hardest fight. Concentration force player to pick whether to buff or debuff, not just blindly cast thing so something happen.

That's my 2c.

Playing a Cleric I feel like a bit too many spells require Concentration. But it's a great mechanic that fixes the ridiculous buff stacking of previous editions. Perhaps the next edition could just remove a spell or two from the Concentration list. I like the idea of "choose your buff" and it being powerful. There could also be a Feat that would allow Concentrating on a second spell.

BG3 needs to stop the unavoidable AoE fire spam from low level enemies though. And falling Prone should NOT be an automatic loss of Concentration. Concentration is a nightmare in BG3 and you tend to lose it very quickly always.

The best concentration spell in BG3 is Bless because it helps you keep concentration!

I have said that being able to concentrate should be based on int. Maybe in a future edition your int modifier will grant additional concentration slots. Anything less than 12 would only allow one at a time. Anything above 12 will allow for an additional with the risk of losing them all if save fails.

I think concentration being a constitution check makes sense since it's basically about how well you can handle the physical shock of pain and whether you can ride it out and stay focused on the spell. But I do think tying intelligence to the number of concentration spells you can have at a time isn't a bad idea. It could be that you can have half your proficiency bonus rounded down concentration spells active at a time. So at most you get three.

I'm just noticing that they (WotC not Larian) removed the cleric spell "Prayer" from the game? Does anyone know why? That spell always got stacked with Bless.

"Low HP don't matter much if you don't get hit. "? Don't know about you but I get hit quite a bit. Even with a 19 or higher AC. Especially when they cast the non-missing spell Magic Missile. You must love when they cast that one on you. Lol.

It's "Maybe-Baby" the birth control that works...sometimes.


I remember my first look at 5e and thinking WOW that's cool!...until I read the fine print.


Summon a powerful being that will fight your enemies until you loose concentration...then it eats YOU!




Boy it sure would be nice to have feats like resilience that can give you proficiency in Con saving throws, so you don't have to level dip.

Oh yea...mods

I think it is balanced or else we would end up with the cluster fuck that bloatfinder is.

No you woudn't that just another Table top system that was poorly adapted to a video game format. Nothing new.
There are 101 ways you can go to stoping that from happening.

Even 5e uses a few of those approaches, example mage armor balanced on a case by case how it does not stack with Unarmored Defense can be done for anything and all sorts of other ways you can limit anything and adapt to video game format for every spell, it just needs work that's all.


The new weapon attacks are examples that work just fine and no one made a peep before or since they added them. Even though they use powerful defuff spells that can be used without anykind of concentration.

People just lack the forsight to see how the game could be improved even further because they are afraid of change. The system in question is ok for what it is, but miles away from amazing.

i agree that it's better than pathfinder in most cases. But i woudn't take that example as objective and maybe i woudl aim a bit higher for better not worse.

It's way to late for this kinds of full system changes. If done, it should be planed ahead of time and it wasn't. The new August release date looks like a stretch as is. At best they could tweak a few spells here or there.

Mods will fix lots of this stuff anyway.

It’s been toned down some, but the surfaces are what IMO causes the most issues with breaking concentration. At the moment, I tend to only use concentration spells that have an immediate use (like that level three warlock spell) or cheese them when the camp scenes activate. That way you can have one of your camp followers cast, let’s say armor, leave them at the camp and they never lose concentration lol.

It's a DND rule. And working as intended.

I remember reading thread about Larian pumping up HP and reducing AP - I didn’t compare actual stats myself, but the hits seem to land more often in BG3 then in other D&D games I played.

The unavoidable nature of magic missile is the reason why shield spell exists, but it’s not currently in the game. I wonder if BG3 will expand its functionality to prevent other unavoidable damage like granades.

Its a 5e core rule, spells is generally more powerfull, but the draw back is, you can only ever have one spell with concentration active... thats why finding the passive spells life false life, or other spells that dont have concentration is a puzzle, sure its not for anyone, and i can agree it is at time anoying, but pros and cons... it sorta got out of control in 3.5 when you stacked spell effects in absurdum, then the game turned more into a spread cheat how to stack your bonuses most effective...

I was sceptical at first like you, but the more i play the more the system grows on you...

That's why Larianism ignores that concentration system because the system is so great right? IN a video game it's amazing! hehehe must be it, because it grows on you. hehe