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WOW! The disrespect centered around this topic does not surprise me. It is truly the age of the militant asshole. This is to Larian...One what page of the Player's handbook is the dice roll chart for sex positions? You took the responsibility to deliver a sequel not only to a series, but a decades long franchise. The number one reason that any one has issue with your company is because you failed to consider what lifetime fans wanted out of the game. You have spit in their face...period. The topics range from the RAW...to you pick (list is too long). So I researched a few minutes and came up with about 7% of BG 1 and 2 players were elementary to adolescent...hear are a few. I'm 14 and I play BG since I was 6 or something like that so it was my first real game that I played. And It's still my favourite  BTW I'm from Poland 18. Been playing Baldur's Gate since I was like 5. Hahah 23. Been playing since it came out, so that would make me 8 or 9 at start. I'm quite suprised that so many central Europeans know of the game. I didn't even think most Americans knew it anymore, especially in Massachusetts. I was around 12 when BG came out. hmm i was in my teens when it came out, i still have the copies too.:) So rated M means what? We decided that the game won't be for this audience anymore...and like some point out their is the "whatchya doing Dad / Mom" group. Its not even good sex...its completely laughable how my character has been hit on. Yes I always cut it short...but it was annoying and really gave me the impression that your team is comprised of middle aged people who never grew up. I lost tons of respect for your decision making skills across the board... ....but the lack of consideration for what decades old fans might actually like to see in your game is my number 1 reason. Anyway, I was looking forward to playing the game, but if you want to reach out to me and offer a refund I would take it in a heartbeat. Not mad...disgusted!
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The sex scenes in this game with stiff animation combined with detailed positions are very cringe and borderline comedy. And the fact that all companions basically wait in line to throw themselves at you feels like poor writing. Any excuse to trigger those scenes will do.
I just wish the devs didn't go there. Tilting the camera up after the first kiss or whatever and leaving it up to the player's imagination would work much better than trying to craft virtual sex scenes in a game engine. It's like some cringe juvenile fantasy come to life with clumsy game CGI. And I have to wonder who is this soft porn in a game for? 100%. What I have been trying to say. Nobody is complaining about having sex scenes in a mature video game. Its the awful "teenage" and "immature" way it has been done. How ironic this is. <<Mature>> sex scenes suited for an immature audience... If you can't do it right visually , SCRAPE it. Or use good ol TEXT. Imagination does wonders. Larian, your sex scenes are AWFUL. Not your forte so either give it up, or get more mature writers.
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It just reminded me of the bowl of goat's milk that old Winthrop used to put outside his door every evening for the dust demons. He said the dust demons could never resist goat's milk, and that they would always drink themselves into a stupor and then be too tired to enter his room..
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So your answer is to just lock my door all the time Not entirely ... My answer would be "then go f*** yourself" to be quite honest.  You have exactly what you need ... several such things actualy ... yet you "simply refuse" to use any of them ... That is your decision, and i totally respect (to some extent) that you should have option to make your own mistakes ... But i must admit this topic is quite interesting in its own twisted way ... even tho i was falsely acused countless times of the same, i would use this as perfect description of that what people around here call "Argue for the sake of arguing" ... you are not looking for answers, you dont try to figure anything out, just repeat how everything is wrong, bad, and should be changed bcs you simply demand it ... And yet, nobody who falsely acused me in the past made the same acusation here. Its a bit confusing. O_o
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I still dont understand why cant we change Race for our hirelings.  Lets us play Githyanki as racist as they trully are!
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[quote=1varangian] Its the awful "teenage" and "immature" way it has been done. How ironic this is. <<Mature>> sex scenes suited for an immature audience...
Larian, your sex scenes are AWFUL. Not your forte so either give it up, or get more mature writers. Excuse me, but what is an example of a "mature" and "adult" way in which it can be done? Yes, probably everyone agrees that these scenes are done poorly choreographically and are not well animated, but how is it connected with teenagers and immaturity? Are you complaining about the lack of choices and dissonance between you and your character?
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Not sure i shall laugh or cry, why is it that leavng a trail of dead people, hacked up by weapons, burned to crisp by spells, is perfectly alright, and not controversial at all... but for some reason if nudity or sex is shown, its some horrific porn festival that should be banished and we should all be a shamed couse its perfectly a natural things and its part of the human thing to exist...
I might be a pagan skandinavian, but im just flabber gasted, isnt murder and killing worse then, something thats actually well natural ?... perspectives i guess It's like this. Sex is, in the minds of many, myself included, meant to be intimate and private and not on display for the world to see. So people like me don't enjoy shows and movies and games that display such things. It's inappropriate. Also, from a moral standpoint, watching sex on screen arouses unhealthy sexual desires in many; a lot moreso than violence. Sex is like a drug to a lot of people, and there are individuals who cannot control their sexual appetites. Thus, displaying sex on screens wets their appetites and with no healthy way to satisfy it, they go out and hurt people. Now, please note:. I am just explaining why some have more problems with sex than violence. Well, aside from religious beliefs stating that it is a sin to display sex in such a way. But then, many also have religious issues with violence in games too. I know a LOT of people who would NEVER play BG3 and would consider anyone who does a fallen sinner who deserves Hell just for playing this game. If they knew I was playing it, they'd condemn me for sure... Even though there is therefore no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. Yet many Christians are the first to condemn others even though Jesus taught that we should not judge or condemn. But anyway. That's just part of why this is an issue. Thought I'd explain since so many seemed to be mystified by it.
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So your answer is to just lock my door all the time Not entirely ... My answer would be "then go f*** yourself" to be quite honest.  You have exactly what you need ... several such things actualy ... yet you "simply refuse" to use any of them ... That is your decision, and i totally respect (to some extent) that you should have option to make your own mistakes ... But i must admit this topic is quite interesting in its own twisted way ... even tho i was falsely acused countless times of the same, i would use this as perfect description of that what people around here call "Argue for the sake of arguing" ... you are not looking for answers, you dont try to figure anything out, just repeat how everything is wrong, bad, and should be changed bcs you simply demand it ... And yet, nobody who falsely acused me in the past made the same acusation here. Its a bit confusing. O_o Please do point out where I have demanded a single thing. I have always, continually, stated that it is my own personal opinion and that I accept that others have their own. I have never "demanded" a damn thing. "go f**** yourself"? Seriously? Lol. Wow. How immature. Also, how exactly am I not "trying to figure anything out"? Oh wait, that must be an example right there? I'm not trying to figure out wtf you're trying to say I'm not trying to figure out? Lol. You sir/ma'am continue to confuse and bewilder me with just about every post. Always saying I am doing things that I clearly am not. I truely don't understand you. Does anyone else understand this person? Please feel free to explain him/her to me. I do seriously desire to understand everyone. Honestly. This is not me trying to be a smart ass or anything.
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What is the goal of these sex scenes in BG3? What does Larian want to achieve that fading to black wouldn't? And is it worth the time/effort/money they're spending making these scenes, that could otherwise be put into other aspects of the game? The sex scenes in this game with stiff animation combined with detailed positions are very cringe and borderline comedy. And the fact that all companions basically wait in line to throw themselves at you feels like poor writing. Any excuse to trigger those scenes will do.
I just wish the devs didn't go there. Tilting the camera up after the first kiss or whatever and leaving it up to the player's imagination would work much better than trying to craft virtual sex scenes in a game engine. It's like some cringe juvenile fantasy come to life with clumsy game CGI. And I have to wonder who is this soft porn in a game for? +1 ...poor choreography and porny scene direction aside, lack of pacing and bland expression and action aside... In a game where we are playing our own character, whose personality we decide on, if we have intimate scenes that are actually shown, we must have some leverage over how those scenes play out; some choices we can make to tell the game what our character is like or wants in this deeply personal moment - this really matters, for the scene to fly, and land, properly, even if we assume the other elements are all improved. [snip]
...a way to at least partially indicate what sort of a scene our character would pursue. If we don't have that, and our character has a pre-scripted sexual encounter that runs like clockwork and does things that our character might not want or might not be into, etc., that's destructive for immersion and a time where character immersion should be a priority. +1
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Guess I am childish, getting propositioned by a gay vampire made me laugh out loud....
I didn't do it! But I thought about it....
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Guess I am childish, getting propositioned by a gay vampire made me laugh out loud.... Hes not gay ... He is willing to shag anything.
I still dont understand why cant we change Race for our hirelings.  Lets us play Githyanki as racist as they trully are!
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That is true for you and the ones like you... and thats the root of the problem im trying to enlighten, DnD. Roleplaying, Larping, is enactment of something thats fantasy, to be something that isnt... some of us want to do, be things we cant do IRL, and it dosent matter if its violence or romance, as im saying what right for you, isnt for me, and vice versa... None of this is real, its make belief a game, let it be a game, let it be fantasty, dont try to make it real to force your sexual norms on others...
Larian is trying to tell a story in 3d, that has violence and sexual content, and minf you, you can go back to BG1 and BG2 these thins has allways been part of their games, yes it was simpler and the grafics was pixely both for the combat and much more ofthe story romance was spelled and read rather then seen...
I repect you for your values, its perfectly alright, but please allow my more liberal/pagan views, and allow Larian to tell that fantasy of heroines and villians, to me a story without romance wouldent be a BG game, now if your story dont want romance, how about dont do it ?...
To turn the reasoning, while i have no problem with the romance or most of the violence, im sorta disturbed by some of the more "evil" options in the game, but it isnt real and a story have good and evil, im kinda disturbed that some vant to let everyone into a place and just slougther the people there... so, i dont do it... but while i personaly think this is awfull and not my story, hey, it might be a thrill for others... it isnt real, its just make belief, isnt that why we read books, see movies and play video games ? <3
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This is your opinion and I totally accept it but if you have such a serious problem with it why are you even here? Why don't you just "skip it" like people enjoy telling us to do with the sex sceens themselves? Seriously, you're a hypocrite. You can complain about us complaining but we can't actually do the complaining to begin with? wtf? lol
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I think everyone is pansexual in this game. During the weave conjuring interaction with Gale that went down to a gay romance by the end of it and I noped out. Astarion and Minthara swing both ways as well. It's an issue in a couple games, Dragon Age Inquisition is the other on that comes to immediate mind. The result if you don't pay attention is you're suddenly hitting on everyone and anything. As for the sex scene, I can''t say I'm bothered by it. Feel like folks here would have a heart attack if they went near the Fallout/Skyrim Nexus mods pages.
Also is the critique that there's sex scenes in the game...or that they could be better animated?
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Also is the critique that there's sex scenes in the game...or that they could be better animated? At this point I think every single opinion has been posted. There are people who don't want sex scenes period, people who want an option to disable them, people who want a fade to black, people who want text based scenes, people who want "less awkward" scenes, people who judge them "childish", people who want to play BG3 with minors (for some reason), people who don't want content to be gated behind them, people who are ok with them, people who simp for Astarion... As expected, sex is controversial. 
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Githyanki lay eggs - they don't give birth live like most mammals. Which means Githyanki have a Cloaca. A Cloaca is an orifice which is used by a bird or lizard for defecation, sex and egg laying.
So I'd pass on that Githyanki sex...lol...ewwwwwwwwww They also have tits, so maybe it isn't so straightforward. This reminds me of all the conversations I had in grade school about what possible biological niches Pokemon could occupy exactly. Or maybe Lae'zel is the world's sexiest platypus Good point, so they lay eggs but breastfeed their young when born. How confusing. Although I don't get why a Githyanki would want to mate with any other species. Totally incompatible. If you try to initiate sex and you start taking off your clothes, La'zael should look down and go "Kinchaw, what in the hells is that?" Then "You do not appear to have the correct equipment for this." Anyway, I think Larian has - based on implementation - decided that sex is largely irrelevant. Anybody can bang anybody. I don't blame them really. It's not the focus of the game for me, and I don't consider cartoon-sex some kind of game-breaking war-crime.
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I think everyone is pansexual in this game. This was discussed several times allready and i believe the result was something like: There is no word for out followers sexuality, since they are completely willing to sleep with even different species ... something that have usualy suffix -philia, rather than -sexuality, and its concidered entirely wrong in our society. Also is the critique that there's sex scenes in the game...or that they could be better animated? If this is opened for debate, my vote goes for option B.
I still dont understand why cant we change Race for our hirelings.  Lets us play Githyanki as racist as they trully are!
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flippant and immature approach to sexuality, intimacy, and complex adult relationships.
the more you defend this as "working as intended" the more disgusted I become.
nothing but masturbatory softccore for people so starved for actual intimacy they'll justify this as healthy.
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I'll never not find it funny how you can have movies, games and stories of people just getting absolutely obliterated or dying in horrific ways be totally fine but nudity and sex summon the end of days.
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Also is the critique that there's sex scenes in the game...or that they could be better animated? My own personal argument is that there are sex sceens in the game period. Yes also that they are animated but even if they were real actual people/porn I'd definitely still complain because it's in this game.
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No, he's just being belittling to people who might like cartoon porn. Honestly though, as someone who actually looks at 3d rendered porn, I find BG3's intimate scenes to be more far more awkward than arousing. So the problem is that the porn is not good enough? lol I'd say thats 1 of many problems here. That it exists would be the first though.
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