No one's asking for Moon druid wildshapes to be on par with a martial class. You are missing a lot of relevant information. Weapon attacks, status conditions applied via those weapon attacks, coating your weapon in fire/poison, subclass features like action surge, even just feats affecting your tav but not wildshapes. And let's not forget the many weapons with special enhancements, like the flaming sword you can get on the nautiloid.

Fact of the matter is that wildshapes could be buffed and still be worse melee combatants than martial classes. Bear form isn't even close to performing on their level, not even at level 2.

Edit: I mean damage wise, obviously survivability is better at that level lol. This is a good time for me to plug my general forums post, the Deeper Rothe. My idea to buff the deep rothe instead of the bear. Keeping its lower health and AC but buffing it's damage and making it moon only essentially. Check it out as I think many would like it.

Last edited by Hintermist; 30/12/22 03:00 AM.