So if you walk into a sauna and we sit naked, males, females, young and old... would you tell usto cover up so you can enjoy the sauna, and finish your paid time ?
So lets argue with the thought that Larian do make a PG version, in order for it to still actually be rated as PG larian actually have to live up to certain standards, if they dont, its still rated for a more mature audience... my anoyance with all this, is that these things isnt as easy as some of you think, its thousends of lines of text, cutscenes and animations that needs to dupplicated and in many cases still story wise make sense...and the risk is that the entire story or the entire game gets nerfed, or the production time get drastically longer... and even more so in many countries of for example Larian fail to live up to certain things they risk getting sued...
Its alittle like cyber punk, they tried to make a game for all platforms, and in compromising performance to fit the low end platforms, it ended up a really broken game on release... you not just asking Larian to have a PG tailored version for you and like minded, your also asking everyone else to wait for it... and from the beginning cyberpunk was going to be full nude, then they added PG versions, in order to make it more accesiable, wich also ended up removing alot of inteded grafical things...
Anouther example, someone writes a book, and i ask the author to re write the entire book and add in alittle grafical romancing stuff... fairly sure the writer could do that, but its alot of text to "change" add to still keep the story...
So sure, im oki with what you say, if it in no way in anyway, adds bugs, or limits the original intended experience or DELAYS the production...
Dude. I would not go to a sauna where it is cross-gender. I don't really like saunas to begin with, but I certainly wouldn't go to one where males, females, young and old are naked together. If I did enter one, and discovered that it was this way, I'd walk right out and ask for my money back.
I can't do that with BG3. It's too late to ask for my money back. I've already played it for like 600+ hours for 2+ years. If they make the game MORE vulgar and sexual than it already is, I'm going to just have to uninstall and suffer. I don't get to know the end simply because they made it SO vulgar and sexual that I can't, in good conscience, continue it. THAT is my big fear for this game.
Also, I am NOT - and I repeat - NOT asking them to create an entirely different PG version of the game. All I'm asking - and others like me, for the most part - is options in settings. Option 1 = Explicit Sex Scenes On/Off where Off means that if you choose to sleep with someone, it fades to black. If there are parts of the game where naked men or women spring out at you or they're having explicit sex and you walk in on them, the option makes it so that you are forewarned. "Warning: Explicit material ahead." And I REALLY REALLY hope they don't have anything explicit or whatever that is mandatory for a person to complete the game. As long as they keep it as optional like the campfire party where everyone asks you to do it, I can live with that. The bugbear and ogre scene I can also live with, though a nice warning message would have been nice. Like I said, something that pops up and says, "Don't open the door ahead. Explicit content." Fine. That's optional. I'll just avoid it. Thanks for the warning Larian. And vulgarity? Bleep it out and do this to the subtitles: "$#@$" Ah. Now I know they're saying raunchy, nasty, vulgar stuff, but I'm not reading about how Thrynn is going down on Nere, or whatever. I don't like reading about or hearing that stuff, and it does seriously hurt my enjoyment of the game. I'd really like THE OPTION to have it blurred out, bleeped, or just totally removed if I go into Settings and hit "Vulgarity Off" or "Explicit Nudity and Sex Off" or whatever.
So, again, it's not the whole game redone. It's a few scenes that they could fade to black or bleep out or blur or something so people don't actually see full fledged naked boobies and bottoms and people humping each other and talking about humping each other. I do not think that stuff is fun, and it seriously ruins the game for me when it pops up on me.
So lets NOT argue. It's just me stating why I want an option to turn off that stuff, and why I'm in support of such an option. You might have tons and loads of fun with explicit nakedness and sex in a game and all that nasty vulgar talk, but I don't. I want to enjoy the game to its fullest too, so I'm simply supporting the options to be able to turn that junk off.
And... btw... I also don't support books that have explicit sex and vulgarity. I typically toss them in the garbage. I know that's not your point, but to address your point, again, I'm not asking Larian to rewrite a ton of stuff. I'm asking them to create an option or options for us who don't enjoy such material so that we can turn it off. Here's how it would go:
Explicit Sex Option On = Minthara and MC having full explicit sex and dialogues. Off = You agree to sleep with Minthara. Cuts to Minthara and MC snuggling in the afterglow. It only shows them from the shoulders up, so you know they're naked but it's showing no naked bits. Important dialogues ensue. This is the exact same as the On option except they have zoomed in or tilted the camera or shoot, they just blur out the naughty bits, and they cut out the entire sex portion of the scene. They didn't really change anything - no new scripting or shooting of scenes or nothing. It's like flipping a page in a book instead of reading it. The content is there, but you've elected to skip the naughty portions, reading only the important stuff.
Vulgarity Option On = All dialogue sound and subtitles as normal. Off = Vulgar text is changed to $#@$ characters and vulgar speech audio simply goes silent. So, when one of the duergar says, "Thrynn's choking on Nere's prick," it instead says, "Thrynn's $#@$ $# $#@$ #$@$." You kinda get the idea that they're being vulgar and dirty, but you aren't hearing the words or reading them. You know it's not really important text, and you get the idea that the duergar are being nasty. And, if it IS important text mingled with vulgarity, the dialogue does something like this: "In order to enter the $#@$ $#@$ temple, you have to $#@$ $#@$ pull the $#@$ lever on the $#@$ statue."
Do they HAVE to do this? No. Of course not. Those who have said "They said it's M-rated, so they have every right to put whatever mature content they want into the game" are absolutely correct. They have every right to put whatever they want into it. It's their game. Doesn't matter one bit to me what rights they have as a developer. I've purchased the game hoping they will not be too raunchy for me to play it through to the end. I'm a paying customer, and I'm hoping that as a paying customer, and since it is EA and they have the ability to make whatever changes they want, that they will at least consider me and people like me who don't like games with this kind of content.
Will I be upset if they don't do anything? Maybe a little as long as the game doesn't get worse than it already is. I will grit my teeth and bear it as long as it doesn't get worse than present. Will I stop playing the game entirely and consider it totally trash? No, unless they make it MORE vulgar and sexual than it already is and they don't provide any way for players like me to turn off the sex, nudity and vulgarity. Will I ever buy another Larian game? Quite possibly, unless they totally disregard players like me and make it more vulgar and sexual than it already is with no way of turning it off. If they do that, I absolutely will not ever buy another Larian game. Period.
And we could argue all day long about it, but it won't do any good. This is how I feel. This is my personal preference. No amount of arguing about it will change my mind. And again, I'm obviously not the only one or this thread wouldn't have so many pages and it wouldn't have gotten so heated on many occasions.
