Originally Posted by Lastman
Originally Posted by The_Red_Queen
Hmm, I do think it's a too easy to swap weapons, but a full action seems harsh, basically you'd miss a whole turn if you want to swap weapons unless you were hasted or could attack with your offhand. I think that might be as per 5e but my sense is that it would make fighting feel even less dynamic than a turn-based system needs to and that matters in a cRPG. Plus it feels a bit unfair to ranged fighters, who would need to lose a turn to swap to a melee weapon to deal with a sudden nearby threat
Yeah they messed up with their positioning so now they need to get out of it... So whats wrong with that?


When was the last time you used disengagement? It's there for a reason.:)

They are trade offs and you still have things you can do, you still have many options and we will have more when the game fully releases. You get rewarded more for staying out of that range... Like i said makes the combat more tactical risk vs rewards thing...

I do see where you're coming from, and am not saying it wouldn't work having weapon swaps cost an action, or even that it wouldn't be better than now (I think it would!). I'm just giving my feeling that it might be a step too far. As you say, it's about trade offs and decisions about risk vs reward, and a change like this will alter the calculus. I don't think there are obvious right and wrong answers here ... well except for the current setup being wrong ... and the fact swapping weapons takes an action in 5e is a point in its favour. I'm suggesting a sort of compromise position as I worry a little about how going all the way to 5e would feel in a cRPG, that's all, though I am quite ready to accept it might be better than I fear in practice.

I do use disengage a reasonable amount by the way! I sometimes prefer to reposition my ranged characters rather than have them stab at an enemy but be stuck in melee range unless they risk an AoO. But I agree I'd use it a lot more if changing weapons took an action smile


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