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If they don't have more than a superficial impact on the narrative I don't mind otherwise it'd have to be done very delicately.
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What's really funny is that a possible metric of the success of the game would be someone making a Porno out of it. I wonder who will play Shadowheart...
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People often joke about athletics checks or constitution saves... but let's be real here: the check you should be making during intimacy is probably an insight check to better read what your partner needs or is enjoying most ^.^ I was thinking Acrobatics and Performance, but you make a good point! Relevant Rolls: -Athletics -Acrobatics -Sleight of Hand -Perception -Investigation -Persuasion -Performance -Nature -Stealth I almost like this concept if you can pair it with interesting results after failing the occasional check. Fail a stealth check and another character shouts for you to keep it quiet. Fail a low number nature check and the romantic interest can question if you actually know what you're doing. Similarly with investigation or perception. Fail an acrobatics check and you wake up the next morning with a pulled muscle debuff. Fail an athletics check and the scene ends early. Fail an insight check and get a dissatisfied statement from the interest. Persuasion and insight can open up different ways for the scene to go. I think the idea that every encounter should be hot, steamy, and flawless is somewhat low-brow and introducing a bit of humor or shortfalls for character development in some scenes could be interesting. Fail a sleight of hand check and get a "I suggest you use your eyes because what you're grabbing is not what you think it is." Edit to clarify... I mean this half serious half joking. Part of this is just riffing, but I wouldn't be upset if it made it into the game.
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What's really funny is that a possible metric of the success of the game would be someone making a Porno out of it. I wonder who will play Shadowheart... I did once see an animated porn vid that I later learned was made entirely with sounds from league of legends.
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On a more serious note - I'm actually against having skill checks in intimate moments; these should be scenes and sequences that you have the freedom to rp and guide as you wish to, as a player, not beholden to the fickle dice. Haha, well, and I am, actually quite serious. For one it would bring love scene closer to the rest of the game tone wise. And the other - skill checks are a primary non-combat mechanic, and D&D isn’t about what what you as a player want to do, it’s what you character can do. Mix of both would probably be the best solution. Yeah, it would be a bit ridiculous but so is having them in a first place. Surely, completely failing the love encounter would be more memorable than what we have now…. And people so want the “realism”, no? Edit. Oh gosh, see me loosing any hope that the game will be any decent above 
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People often joke about athletics checks or constitution saves... but let's be real here: the check you should be making during intimacy is probably an insight check to better read what your partner needs or is enjoying most ^.^ Presuming you care?
I still dont understand why cant we change Race for our hirelings.  Lets us play Githyanki as racist as they trully are!
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Well. Now you've all done it. Joke around like this and Larian will do it because they think it's fun.
Now you're going to get dice rolls for sex scenes and who knows? Maybe they'll throw in a Pregnancy mechanic to boot - I mean, provided it's a heterosexual encounter. Roll a 1 on a 20 sider and uh oh! Now you're a pregnant woman with a tadpole, or your companion is. Situation SO much worse.
Ah, but then we'd suddenly have to have abortion mechanics and options, and also birth control and so forth. But hey! We want realism, right?
Of course, I'm kinda kidding, but also making a small point. Some arguments are that they want more realistic sex in the game because they want more realism. Well. Just how far do you want that to go?
Imagine how much more intense your situation would be if you or one of your companions became pregnant while having a tadpole in your heads.
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Well. Now you've all done it. Joke around like this and Larian will do it because they think it's fun.
Now you're going to get dice rolls for sex scenes and who knows? Maybe they'll throw in a Pregnancy mechanic to boot - I mean, provided it's a heterosexual encounter. Roll a 1 on a 20 sider and uh oh! Now you're a pregnant woman with a tadpole, or your companion is. Situation SO much worse.
Ah, but then we'd suddenly have to have abortion mechanics and options, and also birth control and so forth. But hey! We want realism, right?
Of course, I'm kinda kidding, but also making a small point. Some arguments are that they want more realistic sex in the game because they want more realism. Well. Just how far do you want that to go?
Imagine how much more intense your situation would be if you or one of your companions became pregnant while having a tadpole in your heads. Actually this is a big thing in Fire Emblem. Not explicit pregnancy mind you, but pairing some units with each others via romance allows you to play their offspring later in the game. Could be a fun CRPG mechanic too.
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If it would be a huge immersive game like Elder scrolls - it would make sense actually. Here, where the narration is divided into several small acts and the first act can be completed in 3-5 in-game days (some finish the game without a single long rest even), pregnancy would be pointless. And BG3 is not an immersive sim also, so this is your answer to how far it can go.
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Some people never romanced Aerie I see
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This is a game for adults with adult themes which include slavery, body horror, murder, cruelty, the killing of children and you are upset about some "mild" sex with a horny/manipulative Drow that you have to take a specific evil path to even get to? Ok, that seems totally reasonable.
Minthara and the Drow in general use sex like a weapon, to control and get info and manipulate people, which is exactly what she does. It is an accurate portrayal of their culture. This comment is golden. I fully agree. It amuses me that the rant of the original poster got 23 pages of comments (nothing personal, btw). If you don't want to watch it, just skip the scene or don't be involved in romances. This reminds me of a comment made by GRR Martin that he got a lot of complains about sex and none about the violence in his books. I am fine with both as long as you know what you buy. And BG3 is quite clear about it. And by the way, I do not think that game sex scenes should be 100% realistic. That's not the point of the game, lol.
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Maybe they'll throw in a Pregnancy mechanic to boot - I mean, provided it's a heterosexual encounter. Roll a 1 on a 20 sider and uh oh! Now you're a pregnant woman with a tadpole, or your companion is. Situation SO much worse.
Ah, but then we'd suddenly have to have abortion mechanics and options, and also birth control and so forth. But hey! We want realism, right? Honestly, the "random X% chance" thing you find in various games bugs me a little... if there was the potential for the risk, I'd rather keep track of my cycles, to know with more control what times are a viable risk and what times aren't ^.^ I'm a big supporter of the basic idea that, in the realms, "There's a cantrip for that", both for prevention and for taking care of unwanted consequences, and that general knowledge of the associated herbcraft didn't suffer the dark-ages blackout that it did in our world, so, it's much more openly and widely understood. It would be interesting to see the dichotomy between the passage of days an nights as we experience them in game, versus the still and dead, timeless state that the world exists in, versus the restricted and tighter-in timeline that the story purports to operate in, each completely disconnected and unrelated to each other - to end up in a situation where now I'm five months and showing... while everyone else is talking about how we crashed out of the sky a week ago, in the actual story dialogue. Tangents aside - it's a bad idea for adventurers to take those kinds of risks while they're actively adventuring, so at most tables it's generally presumed that adventuring characters are taking whatever necessary precautions they need to, and I'd expect that assumption would certainly continue in a video game ^.^
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@GM4Him Still getting back to it, wanting more and things that look better, dosent allways equate to more realism, the core of the issue no matter how life like, and realistic Larian tries to portray the game its still a game, thats why we can murder and sex all we want, couse its a game... where nerds is chads, running around and uphold forgotten ideals of fantasy... its like a book, and then you can add pictures to the book, and then you can animate the pictures, still same not real book, regardless if it got pictures or animated... and it all comes back to a few on this forum that cant handle it... then you insert reason why it dosent matter, but if that was true, then you would react the same thing regarding violence... and that is oki, understanding yourself, lots of things i dont like, and if i dont like something or enjoy some kind of media, i avoid it, i allow people that enjoy what i dont like to do just that, couse people are diffrent...
Then you argue, but i just want a simple little filter, mhmmm and thats the problem, its not just a simple little filter, and no matter the changes its changes that have to happen, and that risks the version of the game and others like... example take dark and darker, not sure if you heard of it, its a pvp dungeon crawl game, and i could imagine people wanting to ask for a simple pve version added, dosent do any harm right ?, problem is, the moment you add more version, it makes a ripple effect across the entire platform, wich creates more work etc... and it allways risk no one getting anything... so i rather see publishers put all effort into the one version and make that as best they can, rather then a game for everyone that probably risk ending up bland...
But i just want a few pictures "filtered" again its not just a few pictures, those pictures is part of a chain of pre recorded voice lines, and what you see must also fith with all other story lines, and FOLLOW up voice lines... in later responces they can talk about things, that your version dident see or dident do... meaning the same story with or without, can get significantly, paradoxal couse things dosent make sense later...
@Scales & Fangs Exactly, you get it, its a game it dosent matter, wanting things to look real and being real, is entirly two diffrent things... i want it to look real, but i definatly dont want it to be real... couse in games we can do things we cant, just couse they aint real...
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Maybe they'll throw in a Pregnancy mechanic to boot - I mean, provided it's a heterosexual encounter. Roll a 1 on a 20 sider and uh oh! Now you're a pregnant woman with a tadpole, or your companion is. Situation SO much worse.
Ah, but then we'd suddenly have to have abortion mechanics and options, and also birth control and so forth. But hey! We want realism, right? Honestly, the "random X% chance" thing you find in various games bugs me a little... if there was the potential for the risk, I'd rather keep track of my cycles, to know with more control what times are a viable risk and what times aren't ^.^ I'm a big supporter of the basic idea that, in the realms, "There's a cantrip for that", both for prevention and for taking care of unwanted consequences, and that general knowledge of the associated herbcraft didn't suffer the dark-ages blackout that it did in our world, so, it's much more openly and widely understood. It would be interesting to see the dichotomy between the passage of days an nights as we experience them in game, versus the still and dead, timeless state that the world exists in, versus the restricted and tighter-in timeline that the story purports to operate in, each completely disconnected and unrelated to each other - to end up in a situation where now I'm five months and showing... while everyone else is talking about how we crashed out of the sky a week ago, in the actual story dialogue. Tangents aside - it's a bad idea for adventurers to take those kinds of risks while they're actively adventuring, so at most tables it's generally presumed that adventuring characters are taking whatever necessary precautions they need to, and I'd expect that assumption would certainly continue in a video game ^.^ I googled "Abortion Cantrip" and nothing came up. Same for condom cantrip and morning after cantrip. Would that all fall under prestidigitation? (jkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjk)
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Not in the sense that there are formal third party things like that, but in the sense that, in an immersed and believable world space, those things would exist and be common knowledge; the kind of mild everyday magic that pervades the world, but isn't relevant in terms of adventure and combat and so on.
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They're optional...
I haven't seen a single 'romance' scene in the game, and I probably never will considering most of the party members are manipulative lairs - not something I find attractive.
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Generally, I find in-game rendered sex scenes to be pretty painful/cringey to watch - not out of prudishness, the animation/graphics (and often dialog) are just not up to the task. Watching animated rag-dolls bouncing off each other doesn't really do much for me ;-) *squeak*squeak*squeak* Nah, just give me a before/after scene - my imagination can fill in details in full-res with relevant info.
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Well, I had to watch this scene because everyone is making a hubbub about it. Frankly, it's much ado about nothing. It's pretty tame really, in my opinion. Of course, if some want a 'fade to black' with regard to this stuff, I say that's perfectly reasonable.
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I don't have a problem, but maybe those who don't want to watch it can just... skip the cutscene? I'm pretty sure there's a skip option for cinematics? Or am I misremembering?
Edit: The usual standard for cutscenes is to have a skip option, especially if you are replaying the game or are repeatedly dying and are sick of seeing the scene over and over again.
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I don't have a problem, but maybe those who don't want to watch it can just... skip the cutscene? I'm pretty sure there's a skip option for cinematics? Or am I misremembering?
Edit: The usual standard for cutscenes is to have a skip option, especially if you are replaying the game or are repeatedly dying and are sick of seeing the scene over and over again. There is a skip, but part of the issue is that you miss dialogue and therefore character development if you skip the sex cutscenes entirely. And if you don't skip them entirely, you have to watch them to determine what parts you need to skip versus not skip, this defeating the purpose. Edit:. But, I do have to wonder just how important those scenes are really going to be. I mean, will we still learn everything we want to learn about the characters without being naughty with them? This is partially why I said that as long as the sex scenes and explicit sex content doesn't get any more blatant and in your face throughout the game, but they remain optional and behind obvious dialogue triggers, I'll be happy... Unless they include an origin character that I find that I really love. If there's a character that I really want my person to be with, that's when it'll be frustrating because how will I know if the romance scene will be like SH as opposed to Minthara unless I try it out. But then, it's too late to skip, isn't it?
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