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#840503 08/01/23 09:33 PM
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So, I'm not sure if they changed it or what the plans are with this first encounter with Auntie's slaves that wear the masks. I remember talking to one of them and there was dialoge where she told me to come see her in Baldur's Gate. I was looking forward to that. Now, I can't seem to get that dialoge again.

I have done this many times and in many different ways. I've pickpocketed the maks off them before going to Auntie, in hopes they might offer help or at least flee. But it just killed them. I've knocked them out instead of killing them, then removed their maks and it killed them. I've knocked them out, killed auntie, then came back and removed their masks and it worked! But they were still unconscience. When I reseted and came back, they were all gone.

I'm hoping there is a way to end up saving these people when release comes. Very interested to find out what happens to them.

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Yes, the only way I know of currently to save one of Auntie’s slaves is to leave them alone as you pass them in her lair and then leave them alive during the fight with Ethel downstairs. Having them there does make the fight harder of course! But at the end of the fight they’ll turn neutral and you can talk to them, and one will remove her mask. (Though if you kill Ethel too quickly to see her surrender speech, they’ll stay hostile and you’ll have to run away and come back before they’ll calm down and speak, which I think is a bug.)

Removing the masks before Ethel is dead is meant to kill them, apparently, though it seems like a valid strategy to me. And it’s interesting they were gone when you knocked them out and left their masks, though, as when I’ve tried that on a previous patch I think they actually died (though not sure if that was just the time I knocked them out with Nature’s Snare, before I realised it continues to do per turn damage on unconscious targets … d’oh). But still the game doesn’t handle knocking out rather than killing well, and usually treats it just as though you’ve killed the NPC. There was another thread about this not all that long ago. I do hope Larian will put some more work into this element though, and it would be great if the masks recovered (or could be healed) and would interact with you if you knock them out then kill Ethel.


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I think talking to them might have changed. I just finished the fight 15 minutes ago, and they came to her aid. I killed Auntie with a fireball and they all remained hostile. I am not sure if was changed or if it was my strategy.

I put down a fog on the ground on top of my group. Threw haste spores on the outer rim of the fog. I would run out of the fog, into the spores, get my 2 attacks, then run back into the fog and hide. It seemed to work pretty well, the one archer was able to attack into the fog from a distance. But everyone else didn't know what to do. I repeated this until I finished off Aunti with a Fireball.

After Auntie died, all of the Masked Servants stayed hostile. I have no idea if it was changed or if I bugged out the trigger for them returning to neutral. I'll do some more testing on it.

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I think talking to them might have changed. I just finished the fight 15 minutes ago, and they came to her aid. I killed Auntie with a fireball and they all remained hostile. I am not sure if was changed or if it was my strategy.

Might this have been an instance of this problem ….


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(Though if you kill Ethel too quickly to see her surrender speech, they’ll stay hostile and you’ll have to run away and come back before they’ll calm down and speak, which I think is a bug.)

If Ethel starts her turn on (maybe) 20 or less HP she’ll try to bargain with you, but turning her down and killing her should turn the masks neutral. But if she never starts her turn with low HP because you kill her too quickly then the masks stay hostile. I had my party flee to the fairy ring in the back room, and if they all went through it, ending combat, and came back then the masks were neutral again,


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That could have been the problem. I'll play around with it more and see if I can trigger them going neutral.

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Just confirmed it. I didn't kill any of the Masked Servants. Made the deal with Auntie, got my reward. And all of the Masked Servants are still hostile.

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If you make the deal, she’s still alive and they’re still slaves. I believe you need to kill her to free them.


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Oh, I misread what you said. I'll go back and redo it.

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Nope, they're still hostile. I never even damaged the Masked Servants during the fight. I got her to 11hps, she tried to make the deal, I refused, killed her, and all the servants are still trying to kill me. frown

I really hope there ends up being a way to save them and run into them again in Baldur's Gate.

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What about if you run away and come back after Ethel dies? That worked for me when the masks stayed hostile when I killed her without getting her surrender speech, though admittedly they returned neutral by themselves after last time I turned down Ethel’s deal then killed her. It might just be an intermittent problem with them returning to neutral though, and I was wrong about the correlation with Ethel surrendering.


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only the halfling girl can be saved bc she was made a thrall recently. the others have lost their mind completely.

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Originally Posted by ALexws
only the halfling girl can be saved bc she was made a thrall recently. the others have lost their mind completely.

The problem is that sometimes they all remain hostile and none can be saved. The only workaround I’ve found then is to flee then return, at which point they are all neutral, though as you say only the halfling will take off her mask as the others are too far gone.


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I get the feeling in the full game there will be more to this choice of saving them.

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I really hope so. One thing I want to try doing in my next playthough is using Remove Curse. See if that opens up any new options in E.A.

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Well. I did manage to talk to the halfing woman and talked to her about how she became enslaved, etc. And I did go in with Remove Curse for the others who refused to take off their masks. Doesn't work, it's not a curse. So as of right now, the only way I could get dialoge from the halfling woman was to kill auntie before entering her lair.

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Originally Posted by Accessdenied
Well. I did manage to talk to the halfing woman and talked to her about how she became enslaved, etc. And I did go in with Remove Curse for the others who refused to take off their masks. Doesn't work, it's not a curse. So as of right now, the only way I could get dialoge from the halfling woman was to kill auntie before entering her lair.

Did you ever get chance to try the workaround I'd suggested and run away after killing Auntie down in her lair, while the masks are still alive, then return afterwards? That has always worked for me when the masks remained hostile.


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I'm going to try to remember to do that, I promise, lol.

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I'm going to try to remember to do that, I promise, lol.

You don't have to smile! I'm just curious as to whether it's a reliable way of getting round the problem for other players.


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