Originally Posted by The_Red_Queen
Originally Posted by fylimar
About Wyll and the alcohol: I think that is for now very subtle and well done. As a comparison I have Oghren from Dragon Age, who was just awful. I don't think, alcoholism should be used as comical relief.

Yes, absolutely alcoholism should not be trivialised. And though I think even Oghren had his moments, and that drunk people can sometimes be funny even if alcoholism is no joke, I agree that how it’s handled with Wyll right now is much subtler, more interesting and more respectful. I’d also agree that this aspect is pretty well done from a writing perspective, though I’m not as happy with the animation or performance.

In case it wasn’t clear from my original post, I don’t think Wyll should be made *more* of an alcoholic (or at least a drunk) than he already is, but was trying to say that this aspect of his character is already right there and much of his behaviour is more comprehensible when considered in this context. I don’t think you could remove his relationship to alcohol without changing him significantly, unlike his noble background or experience as a thief.

And, as long as it’s handled sensitively, I also think there’s promise in a redemption arc that involves overcoming the metaphorical demon drink as well as a literal devil.

Not that I want alcohol to be all there is to Wyll as a character, just that I don’t think chucking in more backgrounds is what’s needed in order to make him interesting. And he’s already got other stuff going on, e.g. in his pact with Mizora and his regrets about that, his conflict over his pride in being seen a hero but knowledge that he didn’t get to be one honestly, or fear he’s not one at all, and his anger and resentment towards goblins, Mizora and himself that I think gives plenty of material for an engaging character, if not a necessarily likeable one, at least to begin with.

But again, I can totally see why other folk might not agree.
Yes, I think, they should not overdo the alcohol part. And yes, animations need work, not just with Wyll.
I see him drinking so much as coping with the stress of having to find Mizora, get rid of the tadpole and be confronted with Spike or his lackey, the one from the windmill, where Wylls hero mask slips the first time. And If I remember correctly, the first drinking scene is right after the windmill incident.


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