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Has anyone played a cleric of Selune and taken Shadowheart along? Do they have any special dialog? I've thought about trying it myself but I just don't care for Shadowheart and you really don't need a cleric. But clerics do have some nice spells of course. Especially the Light clerics.

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Yes, and there is some specific dialogue that gives a nice flavour though no big revelations or changes from the normal game, at least the way I played. My cleric may have been considered somewhat heretical, and was open to seeing Selune and Shar as necessary to one another.

I do take Shadowheart more often than not in my playthroughs. Though I agree you don’t need a cleric, I like her character and think she’s useful in combat. With my (Life) Cleric of Selune, I had him focus on buffing, healing and tanking, allowing her to focus on debuffing, damage and stealth. I thought they worked well together.


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I'm going to have to give it a try. I've always been partial to clerics ever since 1st edition. I like being able to wear good armor, use a shield, good selection of spells, being able to heal when needed, I absolutely hate undead especially zombies for some reason. I flat out refuse to watch "The Walking Dead" because it's a zombie show. My brother loves the show and keeps telling me it's great whenever zombies come up. lol. But for some reason I actually kinda like the "Resident Evil" movies. Only thing I can think of being a reason is because of Milla. Lol. BG3 has given me a different view of clerics though. I now see them as a different/special sort of wizard, kinda like how I view warlocks. But I guess that's how your supposed to view warlocks? lol. I use to view clerics just as undead turning healers and that's about it because that's about how I got to play them with the DMs I had. I rarely got to use other spells unfortunately. But with the abundance of potions and the insane ability to "throw" them at each other, the healing of a cleric really isn't needed. So I really like the extra spells the light cleric gets along with the normal selection the get. The trickery cleric doesn't have any appeal to me at all and the life cleric just a little with the "Preserve Life" they get special. Sure the couple extra HPs the restore with healing spells is nice but just doesn't compare to the damage output Light clerics get IMO. Just a matter of preference is all.

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I don’t tend to use potion throwing except in extremis, because I object to using such a dubious mechanic, but even without it I’ve found the game is possible without a cleric. Particularly if you have another class that can heal other party members in an emergency like druid, bard, ranger and now paladin.

But while I agree you don’t need a traditional heal and buff cleric, I still found the game satisfying, interesting and different to play with a Life cleric fulfilling that role, especially as I tend to use Shadowheart as more of a magic damage dealer and rogue substitute, and because there are a few items scattered around that apply extra effects on healing others, such as giving a blade ward or allowing the healed companion to disengage without using an action. Okay, he didn’t deal as much damage himself as a Light cleric would, but the extra damage he helped the party do by keeping them on their feet and able to use their own actions and bonus actions to fulfil their own roles rather than use or throw potions could well have made up for it. I’m sure a Light cleric would be able to heal and buff well, too, but I enjoy making playstyle and spell choices for roleplay reasons, so it felt right to go all in on the traditional healer approach with a Life cleric.

I think all the cleric variants in the game have a playstyle that suits them, and I’m intending to try all of them. I’ve only done Shadowheart as a Trickery cleric yet (though I have a custom one in mind) and my Selunite Life Cleric so far. I am looking forward to my dwarven Light cleric run at some point too.


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A dwarven Light cleric of Selune with Shadowheart is what I just started just to see what happens between them. Just started and haven't discovered she worships Shar yet so nothing to report so far.
Yeah clerics are indeed fun. I think I'm going to enjoy this one more since he wont have to just be a heal-bot.

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Can't recall if I have tried what you suggest. Though I think I have considered it. I do know that there are some unique dialogs with her if you are also a Shar cleric.

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Well I am done except for the Duergar/Grymforge area and my cleric of Selune and Shadowheart haven't really had much dialog together out of the norm. I've tried talking to her a couple times and she just says she doesn't want to talk or we can talk later. Lol. I certainly hope they do something for this sort of interaction for full release. There definitely should be since our goddesses, and their worshipers, are at war with each other.

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Originally Posted by Eyebreaker
Well I am done except for the Duergar/Grymforge area and my cleric of Selune and Shadowheart haven't really had much dialog together out of the norm. I've tried talking to her a couple times and she just says she doesn't want to talk or we can talk later. Lol. I certainly hope they do something for this sort of interaction for full release. There definitely should be since our goddesses, and their worshipers, are at war with each other.
did you talk to her at camp? her unlock a lot of more dialogue options after getting revealed.

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To make the clashes with an evil Sharran priest possible, she should have an amnesia scene quite early if not immediately after the "reveal" so we can suspect all is not as it seems with her. Enemies of Shar need a much stronger hint at that.

Assuming the story unfolds so that we later get to decide whether she remains loyal to Shar or was always actually a brainwashed Selunite and remembers herself. Otherwise a conflict between a good party and a Sharran priest seems inevitable. And why would you invest in a companion that later turns on you?

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I got a scene in the Blighted Village for Shadowheart and then another somewhere else but I don't remember where. Yes I've talked to her in camp a couple times but she just wont talk much at all. She did bash the Selunite shrine in the Goblin Camp but I already knew she was a Shar worshiper bye then. I just expected SOMETHING more from her because I'm a Selune worshiper but Larian didn't put anything in with regard to that possibility. Hopefully finale release will have something.

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I just started a new playthrough last night as a Cleric of Bhaal. I'm hoping to see some unique dialogue between him and Shadowheart. I just did everything in the goblin camp and will do more tonight after work. So far I have liked the unique responses for a Cleric of Bhaal. Going to head to the spots where you trigger Shadowhearts responses to Selune areas.


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