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This conversation is the resolution of her paladin oath/post defeat of Orin
It is very, light, compared to how powerful her introducing her vow of vengence against Orin dialogue was, it's nice and quiet and thoughtful and explores her character a bit but it's, alot less than any other character would get for fulfilling their main character beat. https://www.tumblr.com/evelynstarshine/725333927715323904


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Man, I wish she wasn't tied to anti-tiefling walkthrough. Hopefully she get character expansion in future updates.


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Originally Posted by AlexZebol
Man, I wish she wasn't tied to anti-tiefling walkthrough. Hopefully she get character expansion in future updates.

Shes confirmed as being currently worked on to fix her broken dialogue/triggers. Hopefully a change so she's recruitable in both paths is there too


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Originally Posted by Starshine
Originally Posted by AlexZebol
Man, I wish she wasn't tied to anti-tiefling walkthrough. Hopefully she get character expansion in future updates.

Shes confirmed as being currently worked on to fix her broken dialogue/triggers. Hopefully a change so she's recruitable in both paths is there too


I saw that on the steam forum some people would like to see her as an Origin character, and play the game as Minthara. But it will change the first act so much that it's an idea for a DLC.



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that has also been discussed in this forum


Minthara is the best character and she NEEDS to be recruitable if you side with the grove!
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Originally Posted by Starshine
Originally Posted by AlexZebol
Man, I wish she wasn't tied to anti-tiefling walkthrough. Hopefully she get character expansion in future updates.

Shes confirmed as being currently worked on to fix her broken dialogue/triggers. Hopefully a change so she's recruitable in both paths is there too


I saw that on the steam forum some people would like to see her as an Origin character, and play the game as Minthara. But it will change the first act so much that it's an idea for a DLC.

Doubtful, as she was with the Absolute for some time. Will need some major rewrites for that. I'd be fine with her being just recruitable companion. Just remove the exclusivity bs. She's not really evil, just brainwashed.
Same as Minsc, who, judging by in-game files, was supposed to make appearance in Act 1.


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As much as I would love to have her as an origin character, not being restricted to evil decisions in order to recruit her would be enough for me. She would fit perfectly in the player's party, no matter if you play as evil, good or neutral.

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Minthara surviving the 2nd battle at the Grove would open up recruitment for a good/neutral path. You help defend the Grove, she gets wounded instead of killed, and when you get close with the artifact she is cut off from the Absolute. If you spare her life she escapes, and you find her imprisoned in Moonrise later. This scenario seems minimally disruptive to the current flow of events.

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I really like your idea. It's important that the artifact is cutting off the connection to the absolute as you mentioned, so the player can see the real Minthara for a bit to feel sympathy when meeting her at moonrise.
Maybe while she is wounded, you can explore her fears like during the romance scene with her.

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Originally Posted by CatXiphos
I really like your idea. It's important that the artifact is cutting off the connection to the absolute as you mentioned, so the player can see the real Minthara for a bit to feel sympathy when meeting her at moonrise.
Maybe while she is wounded, you can explore her fears like during the romance scene with her.
During her romance scene I wondered why the artifact blocks out Minthara's connection to Absolute. Act 3 implies
that the Artifact's protection is contingent on the Emperor and only works when he wants it to since he refuses to do the same thing for Minsc.

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It seems likely that this is a relic of cut content. Indicators point towards the plot concerning
the emperor/Daisy/Orpheus
was overhauled fairly late into development. Of note, consider the similar scene with
Nere where his connection to the Absolute could be severed. This seems like it was intended to be some sort of reoccurring trait/ability we were going to encounter/utilize in the original story.

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It would be grand if they just make it so that you can knock her out and the game doesn't treat her as dead, and lets you rescue her from the Moonrise Towers (just as if you skip the gobbos/druids).

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Originally Posted by Zzdtri
It would be grand if they just make it so that you can knock her out and the game doesn't treat her as dead, and lets you rescue her from the Moonrise Towers (just as if you skip the gobbos/druids).

She must survive the first act anyway, it must be scripted



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I hope the developers will hear our voices and give her back everything they owe.
Perhaps each of us should write a feedback via the form on their website. It looks like they're reading this.

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there's a form on the website?


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Originally Posted by ALNoire
I hope the developers will hear our voices and give her back everything they owe.
Perhaps each of us should write a feedback via the form on their website. It looks like they're reading this.

Is there any link? To create a petition, and a separate topic with a link to this form



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I love her bros. This drow has the biggest SOUL.
I find it unacceptable that the best companion in the game was railroaded into the murderhobo path, even though she isn't evil at all frown

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Originally Posted by Grim997
I love her bros. This drow has the biggest SOUL.
I find it unacceptable that the best companion in the game was railroaded into the murderhobo path, even though she isn't evil at all frown
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So its impossible to recruit her without all the tiefling killing thing - right? Sad. But as far as I know in previous games and games alike its a normal thing that you dont have acess to just any character depending on your aligment or choices. We shouldnt behave like spoiled kids who wants everything otherwise everything loses its value. Nothing metters because you can get anything you want. Forbidden fruit as to say. We crave something we cant have more and value it more. Also from game design perspective we are given a reason to replay the game as evil. Tho I personally never play evil characters if possible.

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