Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - General WOC forcing larian to add they / them pronouns , remove word race amongst other things

https://www.cbr.com/baldurs-gate-3-dnd-updates-impact/


You cant be serious.

Seriously?

Just when you thought that this woke politically correct garbage couldn't ruin gaming any further they go all in on intentionally trying to destroy BG3.

For those of you who are reading this thinking that i have ill intentions i want you to consider how well hollywood movies have done with the implentation of this woke crap.

I will tell you how well they have done. Hollywood literally has disappeared into irrelevance and no one watches movies anymore. Sorry i lie, 10% of population who are hardcore leftwing extremists love hollywood movies.

I am so sick of seeing this crap go on to ruining anther industry. First it was hollywood, then they ruined streaming eg Netflix is not watchable and is woke politically correct garbage.

Now they are destroying gaming.

Think im over-reacting. Read my link above to the news article.

NOT HAPPY!!

If some little option in Bg3 ruins the game for you, maybe you should grow some thicker skin. Being terminally offended at the slightest hint of a different opinion isn't a very normal thing

Oh no! They added an option that I am not forced to pick and substituted a word! They are destroying gaming!

You are also breathing the same air as "woke" people, better start holding your breathe now.

If you want to complain about something, complain about the actual problems with the game that were never addressed instead of irrelevant nonsense that you can completely avoid if you want.

So you all agree with WOC removing the term RACE then?

And if you do agree with them please explain why you do?

Im curious.

I'm sorry, i'm not emotionally invested in the term "race" enough to be upset at it's loss.

Although I personally feel that "species" is too clinical, and I prefer the Pathfinder 2e method of using ancestry and heritage as the preferred terms.

What is this clickbaity garbage? The "article" has nothing to say about Baldur's Gate3, or D&D for that matter. Sven's quote also has nothing to do with what you mention, and likely is taken out of context.

Baldur's Gate3 takes liberties with adapting 5e rules. What a shocker.

Please, OP, abandon this trash site and follow sources that attempt to write something of substance. This makes IGN or Gamespot look like responsible journalists.

I assume it doesn't help that the term doesn't particularly make sense from the perspective of biology. Sun elves are a different race than other elves... but are they a different race than a dwarf?

Species makes much more sense, though they can interbreed. Optimally, fantasy should invent a new world altogether, but that's a clunky hassle.

If the different kinds of elves are described as different species, it's no more BS than "races".

Note:
"members of different species either won't or can't mate with one another, or, if they do, the resulting offspring are often sterile, unviable, or suffer some other sort of reduced fitness"

Anything that can interbreed well isn't a different species, and yet, dwarves and elves being merely different races is genetically questionable (not in the least because of the different buffs different species get). Either way, it's somewhat stupid. I can't say I really care if a fantasy world has a different definition of "species" than our world. Race implies a very close genetic overlap, it's certainly never been accurate or ideal.

I'm sure /someone/ is behind the change, but I suspect STEM majors.

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Anyway... You're officially invited to bitch with me about how Larian is only balancing SOME classes (by nerfing them to hell).

Using 4 fireballs on your first turn as a sorcerer is optional, but being a druid that sucks at everything because half your spells are nonfunctional isn't. Druids have a lot of RP potential in Act 1, so it's twice the shame.

Leave the sorcerer, I don't care. Maybe rework haste, so it really only adds another melee attack. Makes spellcasters even weaker at early levels, though. I'm happy avoiding haste. I /am/ pissed about the class favouritism. This also extends to any magic using fighters and thieves, those subclasses have nothing going on for them.

Please, explain to me how the "woke" mob is obsessed with removing race instead of examining it thoroughly. How does that make sense? Really, why would you believe someone claiming that?

To stay on topic, Larian added pronouns way before this new RACE drama . Also doubt WOTC is going to force the issue, as so far I see no sign of this. I mean they would need to rework more than just Race word removal if they would keep in line with the new roles. As I believe race modifiers are totally gone as well, lol. so it would be too much hassle to uproot all that stuff at this stage in development. Instead of crying wolf, let's just wait and see.

The fact the Druid is somehow so broken is really baffling to me. Druid has always been a really strong class in all the dnd-based crpgs I've played, and it's a solid class in 5e. Moon Druids are considered to be one of the most overpowered subclasses. How did we end up with the mess that is the Druid in BG3?

Have you all not seen all the content that comes out from WOC?

They are CLEARLY hardcore into this woke crap.

Im not crying wolf trust this is only the tip of the iceburg.

Blackrock and Vanguard own Hasbro who owns WOC.

Anyone who know what they are on about knows EXACTLY what these two parasite investment funds agenda is.

Just do your own research if you havent allready.

Considering how full the game is of species at conflict, I'm not sure what you want to achieve by calling them races. You can call them races. Nobody cares. The benefit of doubling down one term is beyond me, though. As mentioned, D&D is not consistent with our framework of distinctions in the area of race and species.

Most people believe black people are one race and not incredibly (relatively) genetically diverse. Leading to tons and tons of races... who happen to have dark skin. Just an example of how close races are supposed to be related. Science and pop culture aren't friends.

The term race is D&D specific, to make sense, and so is species (remember that interbreeding). They are both shit in the realm of "facts don't have feelings". It's one inaccurate word or the other. The use of either doesn't change how you view societal conflict in D&D. It's pedantry.

Yeah, the mechanics are much more important than what word we use. BG3 is probably too far along in development to switch to species. Maybe they will, but there isn't exactly a benefit.

Personally, I find it ironic to switch to species (implying greater genetic differences) and /then/ to remove the effects of these differences. I'm not sure what they're trying to achieve. The use of species isn't scientific, either... though the removal of defining traits may explain the ability to interbreed. Which, would also favour the use of "race", but that's not what they did.

You must have missed the threads where we talked about the onednd releases, lots of people on here have seen them and, judging by the threads, have very varied opinions.

Hmm, it's not clear what this lolling is about. My theory is that it means that the initial post was a right-wing parody created for purposes of trolling, and the laughter is because it worked.

In fact, nothing is now going to convince me that the OP isn't really a leftie, liberal, SJW type who is seeking to discredit and poke fun at the anti-woke brigade by exaggerating their position beyond absurdity.

Stealing 30% of anyone's profit that comes from D&D. After a specific date. Can't retroactively demand it I believe.

"Wokeness" and D&D, where there's seemingly a lot of racism/speciesism? is an interesting take because to not be political... races would have to get along perfectly... which is the goal of the "woke" mob. And yours. Unless you want more -isms. But, that immediately means more room to give it a meaningful role in fantasy, which is... "woke".

It's a lose/lose situation only solveable by not having races or species... or races/species that function and live in exactly the same way. I hope you can understand why someone would consider this critically boring

Man, either OP can't believe the hardcore nerds among us are to blame, is a troll, or just devoted to making politics the center of the discussion... which they hate when other people do it.