Originally Posted by Wormerine
Why are we talking about Elden Ring?


It is easier than previous FromSoftware titles - or at least it is more uneven than previous titles. I had probably solidly overleveled for 30-40h of my ongoing playthrough, and only recently things started to even out once I reached the capital. I haven't fought Melania yet, though, it is the next thing on the agenda, and as I already heard about her many times, I am not looking forward to it. Elden Ring in general is easier, yes, but it also has occasional spiked of DarkSouls2 level of bullshit.

Dark Souls games always had difficulty setting. You struggle with some content? Summon a buddy. You struggle with a boss in Elden Ring? Use a summon. I also hear that magic makes things much easier - haven't used it in any for the game so can't comment.

Hardcore nature of the title is greatly exadurated - or at least what I would expect to be a hardcore game. It wants players to succeed and there are multiple ways to do so. Sure, you can try to kill Sentinel as soon as you leave the opening area... or you can not do that. But yeah, compared to major release it is hard - that game has some complexity and requires attention and execution, which is more than most big releases ask for. But, for example, I found all FromSoftware games so far easier than lets say Celeste or Kingmaker.

There was so much crying about Sekiro being hard, and I found it actually pretty breezy outside one optional boss which was just bad.
First of all I have not played any Sekiro or Dark Souls or Elden Ring games myself. From what I have heard you might be correct about the first early one Sekiro. From the standpoint Dark Souls was more harder perhaps in the beginning, but with patches they have made Elden Ring harder so I would say today Elden Ring is not easier then Dark Souls. If you disagree you can see the first video I posted it was named "Elden Ring is disappointing".

The build/tactic in Elden ring to possible summon something is a correct viable tactic because general AI can not handle so well bosses tend to concentrate on summon and then you get opportunity to do more damage. Why we talk about Elden Ring? Why was this forum thread talk about n other games then BG3 before it and Elden Ring is fantasy RPG kind of of though being more like Action, Horror theme some of it, Open World game Elden Ring. Now Elden Ring has best graphics of their so far released games and have achieved massive popularity in amount of sales that I agree on and I have never said Elden Ring graphics are bad. I myself like the high resolution youtube video of Malenia Intro. One more thing I have never said Elden Ring is bad, but perhaps not my cup of tea since I do not like Open World games in general.

In BG3 you can explore? Yes, but I would not say BG3 is Open World game though it can have many different endings and you play good or Evil or something between them.

As for BG3. It is totally different gameplay tactical turn based possible combat DND 5 and into that some DOS 2 elements use the environment, but I am not worried that BG3 can not be enough challenging. We have not even experienced hardest challenge level in Early Alpha BG3 it is not available to change difficult settings in Early Access BG3. I would argue that with current settings it is fairly challenging, but I really hope they include option to roll stats instead of only buypoint 27 points in BG3 character creation for full release.

As for compare to Elden Ring for those who search for best builds I am that kind of player in Dungeons and Dragons. You could argue there is no best build perhaps so from the perspective of personal taste and fun, but some builds will be better then others in BG3 easier to with them win even the hardest challenge settings in BG3. Personally it is not not most important for me to have best build but enough good/powerful build to finish games on hardest difficulty settings if it is DnD.

I play Solasta DnD5 on hardest challenge level Cataclysm currently the expansion Lost Valley the only thing I have disabled is the Iron man mode so that if you die it is permanent and you can not load. Well and found main campaign to easy in Solasta unless you use the hardest challenge level Cataclysm. Well that said I have always rolled stats in Solasta and try to powerplay to KINGDOM COME in DnD as well I have played real Dungeons Dragons 5.0 outside of any computer&console games.

Even the dreaded (optional fight and I suspect many players choose not to fight) Vampire fight in Solasta main campaign we were level 5 when we arrived there with my brother he controls 2 characters and I 2 of them we won it on the very first try on Catalysm challenge level. I would not say it was very easy fight and I did feel adrenaline rise in Vampire fight Solasta main campaign finally a worthy challenge when you are level 5, but still victory on the very first try on Cataclysm challenge level and we killed all the Vampires. No load needed. Solasta is Dungeons Dragons 5 rules limited license.

Last edited by Terminator2020; 21/01/23 11:45 PM.