Originally Posted by Niara
Originally Posted by Terminator2020
Another problem personally that I think with ER is that the story unless you have not played other games like Darks Souls 1 and 2 can be a bit problem to understand for many new players that have never played Dark Souls games.

Elden Ring's story is completely unrelated and in a independent world space (probably) from any other From game. You do not need not have played them to understand its story.

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Malenia mentions here "As I wait for his return". Who is he??? If I would be new player to this game I would feel it unclear story,

If you had been paying attention, even a *Little* bit, you would know this. The game has been positively *bombarding* you with this information leading up to this point in the game - It's actually very difficult to fathom that a person could play to this point in the game and not know to whom she is referring, unless they have the information processing capacity of a three-year old. If that's you, then you really need to start paying attention.

From what I gathered he has not played the game. He has watched streamers play it.

Originally Posted by Wormerine
[quote=Terminator2020]

Another problem personally that I think with ER is that the story unless you have not played other games like Darks Souls 1 and 2 can be a bit problem to understand for many new players that have never played Dark Souls games. Example of hard to understand? I come as EX WOW MMO player (a very long time ago played in like 3+ years near release date) where there are very clear what to do quests and you did generally have nothing unclear what you should do are details except perhaps some good tactics in beginning first time in some Dungeons and Raids but you could fast learn.

Malenia mentions here "As I wait for his return". Who is he??? If I would be new player to this game I would feel it unclear story,

I am not saying ER is like EVE Online MMO very hard learning curve, but the story is not the most clear told really. There are some youtubers that have explained the story very deeply in detail for ER world, but most people do not have the patience to look through them.

Look, one of my degrees is in 18th century poetry. I LOVED the writing in Elden Ring. It was everything great writing should be. It was also highly prosaic. It was designed to challenge players to pay attention and sift interpretations, to be comfortable with ambiguity, or answers that are more complex than they seem. Once the real story unfolds you are left with a sense of mixed wonder and horror at not just the challenge of the game, but the mental journey you had to take, and the layers of story you had to unpeel to get to the truth of things...and even then.

This is a game that really spoke to people - especially to those that had eyes to see and could appreciate craftmanship.

But you know, not for everyone, and that's fine. There are plenty of other games for those folks to play, but maybe some people will continue to think about ER and it will open some in internal doors for them.

Having said that, if English isn't your first language and it isn't localized correctly for your native language then this game's meanings are going to elude you and that ISNT your fault.

One of the reasons games are not written like this is because they don't translate well to an international audience unless you have a solid writer that can interpret. I wholly believe the Japanese and English versions of ER were written correctly to convey subtle meanings. We have GRRM after all and Japanese by nature is very prosaic. Outside of that I can't speak to how meaning was conveyed.


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