And the main thing is, the GM sets the rules. There is no "impossible" in an RPG. The story just has to be good imo.[quote=UnknownEvil]
Indeed ...
Problem is that "be good" is very relative.
[quote=UnknownEvil]and if you just want to cut of every gobbos head, you can do it. I have had runs where i did not kill the whole goblin camp, even as a dwarf
Sure i can ... and sure i do ...
But thats not the point here is it?
This topic is about being a Goblin ... not reacting to a Goblin.
And i for one would certainly welcome *full* Goblin experience ...
When i play Goblin/Drow/Duergar/Githyanki/*insert evil race here* ... i want the world to recognize me as an *insert evil race here* ... i want people to be missthrusting, i want them to be opensly agresive, refuse to talk to me, refuse to trade with me, i want options to show them that im different, i want to EARN their trust ... not having it automaticly, as other, common races have.
Just go and try create an Elf and a Drow ... pick exactly the same dialogue options and tell me, if you felt like the experience was anyhow different just bcs that NPC said "i normaly dont trust your kind, but i gues i make an exception" before started completely regular dialogue. :-/
Its simply not good enough for me.
The best part is that there wouldnt be too much changes needed in many situations (cant say all, i didnt hink so hard about it, but many for sure) ... just take some examples:
Arabella mother ...
Would (in my opinion ofc) never thrust faith of her only child to a Drow ... so she would refuse to tell you anything ... what would change?
NOTHING! You come to Kagha and the child is still there ... you can save her, and then her parents would apologize for being so short sighted.
Doesnt that feel better than when she come beging for help for known torturers, kidnapers, slavers, and in general quite cruel assholes?
Or burning inn ...
I totally love the fact that when you get there as a Drow, that one Flaming Fist wants to attack you ...
But you just say "hey im not with them" and everything is fine ... seconds later group of Flaming Fist asks you for help with doors ...
Nope from me. They should either ask your companions instead ... that would be great!
Something like: "Hey you, Drow lover, come here and help us clear the mess your friends cousins caused!"
Or they should refuse to talk to you at all, bcs they are too busy to deal with another one.
Again, nothing changes ... councilor and that blonde dude are still up there trapped ... you can still break doors, or find another way in ... and if you do, again, one extra line (either Floric would scold captain for not seeking help from you, or captain would apology herself) would make things feel better to me.
Right now, being evil race dont have that desired impact ...
You are easily welcomed everywhere, and that makes me
sad panda bcs i dont really feel like a Drow in this game ... i just feel like an Elf with dark skin tone.
In that situation, we would certainly need some new and probably interesting dialogue choices.
Exactly.
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If that group attacked the horde of goblins that were attacking us, killed them all, and then stopped short of attacking our fighters like what happens in-game? Yah, I'd be willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
Thats kinda different time, isnt it? :P
So ... you would be just standing there, wondering if you should or should not attack them until whoooooooole fight would be over ... and only then you would potentialy react, if they would turn out hostile aswell?
Congratulations, your quick decisions just killed Aradin and his whole group.
Besides, of that group you described I'd be a LOT more concerned about the Githyanki and the Shar Priestess than I would be a lone goblin. A single goblin is rarely a threat. A single Shar cleric can be quite dangerous. Yet nobody raises a brow about Shadowheart when they see her.
Exactly!
The point is that this game could really use ACTUALY hostile (not attack on sight, but really really REALLY unfriendly) responces to PC presence!
And not just to make Goblins playtrough more acurate, even for races and characters we allready have!
Goblins are only threatening if there's a lot of them. I don't see much of a reason for killing any lone goblin on sight except for the sake of being cruel.
Unless we are talking about yet another situation ... its not lone goblin ... its another goblin.
Also ... if you really think that just bcs you see only one goblins there is no other around ... you wouldnt survive long.
How can you tell wich group s/he belongs to? :P
Goblins are attacking your camp ... there is a goblin.
That is exactly the problem im trying to describe here, this game sees too much into who is friendly and who is not.
Hells, you can even decapitate Aradin and his whole group yourself and Zevlor will still welcome you as a hero who helped them.
