Originally Posted by NorthernHick
I don't think you have to assume that a goblin PC walking around with (for example) two humans and a half-elf would immediately get attacked on sight in 'civilized' settings.
Yes, this was mentioned several times allready, and nobody said even a single word against it ...

But you are missing the point. :-/
Problem isnt that "a Goblin that is obviously part of regular adventurers group" shouldnt be taken as "for sure hostile".
Problem is that "a Goblin that is obviously part of SUSPICIOUS aventurers group" shouldnt be taken as "for sure friendly"!

Why a Goblin? Bcs its PC ...
Why suspicious group? Sharan (Shadowheart), a Vampire (Astarion), and Githyanki (Lae'zel) ...
Even if you really, really, REALLY want to make your party look as friendly as possible, all you can get is single Human (there is nothing obviously at first sight wrong with Gale) ... and if you take even single other companion (so far) with you to Druid Grove ... you are just lowering your chances to not being seen as a potential treat.

And THAT is exactly what this game dont recognize at all ... THAT is what we are talking about ... and THAT is the point you missed. wink

Originally Posted by NorthernHick
while I haven't explored this too deeply, it looks like there IS a pretty thoroughly-developed 'evil' avenue for playing the game.
I did, several times ...
Still, it wouldnt work.

For one ...
Minthara (one of Goblin leaders) is willing to launch attack against the Grove based on that "they believe you, so you can infiltrate them" ...
> What we are talking about here is that they most certainly shouldnt believe you. laugh Or at very least not as easily as other PC versions.

For two ... (and feel free to replace word Goblin with words Drow, Duergar, Githyanki in this part)
Even tho there would be a way to play stereotypical goblin, and it would work ... not exactly well, but it would ... kinda, somehow ... like using d20 shaped object instead of round ball ...
The problem is you cant really play non-stereotypical goblin ... exactly for that reason that people dont recognize you as stereotypical goblin. smile

Its exactly as Kou The Mad said ...
We play such characters bcs we want the world to hate us, and we either want to give them even more reason to hate us ... or we want to proove them wrong!
That is the whole point here. laugh
And that initial hatred is missing. smile Thats why playing such character is not satisfying experience. wink

As stated abowe, you cant really break a stereotype ... when there is no stereotype to break. wink

Last edited by RagnarokCzD; 28/01/23 09:11 AM.

I still dont understand why cant we change Race for our hirelings. frown
Lets us play Githyanki as racist as they trully are! frown