Larian Studios Forums Beyond Divinity (English) General VOTE!!!!

Voted again. *sigh*

This game is rated:
7,68
Total votes: 1147

That’s it good Rose. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" />
You could organise with Kiya, joliekiller, Morbo and others with dynamic ISP to vote around the clock in a shuffled mode that is impossible to accuse as spam, detect as spam or remove as spam; especially if country of origin is completely different. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" />

I think Kiya is best for scheduling such a vote being an excellent librarian and all and because she is the true leader of this war.


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We need from our fans volunteers to enlist with Kiya via Private Messages with the title DISP and the message,
{
I have one.
My time zone is Greenwich + xx hours
}
This allows Kiya to plan a schedule depending on your time zone and post you back a reply with your voting hour range.

<very evil grin> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/devil.gif" alt="" />

Indeed - she would be perfect! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I am going to see if i can vote again - after i try to fix my STUPID computer that let a worm in! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

I think it's real crap that the tons of votes for <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" /> were trashed! Anyway,
I was finally able to vote again...7.67 w/1150 votes. Now another 4 days wait.
Sounds like an excellent idea to set up a around the world clock for <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" /> voting, and <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> 2 voting...I wish now I had a dynamic I.P.! I would throw my hat in already!

Hi everyone,

I've been thinking through this issue. Please, before we start casting votes...

-First, some questions. Why did the site administrators do this? I know it has something to do with spam but then did they give a detailed explanation? Do they think we're cheating and if so, is it possible to explain what is happening truthfully? Then again, maybe they didn't want the thing to crash like last time when we voted too much. If we keep voting up, those people might get suspicious. I'm not totally sure about this right now but I'd proceed through this carefully.

-We could stop overvoting and vote less but then how would we deal with the large number of downvoting then? I think a talk with those site administrators may be in order...

-I'm just concerned about what the site administrators are really doing. I want to know the true motivation behind their actions. In fact, if they did something like erase so many of the votes without changing the rating, it's a mixed message. It may be because of spam but as I said maybe it's to prevent the thing from crashing. When I say caution and care, I mean if we continue to pile up a large number of votes, what will the site administrators do? Will they continue to erase the number of votes or will they change our rating or even make it go down? I'm concerned about the consequences of what happens if the site administrators think we're voting too much. I just don't want it to be a bad one.


Thanks for reading,
Lockmar

I agree, Lockmar - we should coordinate and send a mail to the site, asking about their intentions first. And I see it the same way as you do: double-bind message (keeping the rating and deleting votes). So, I think it's a warning in both directions. We should be careful.

Starting a voting schedule around the world should wait until we have answers. I don't want a war, if we want to make/keep RR popular, we need more tactics, not just voting on this site. Raze has made a few suggestions in another thread - DEATH had suggestions there, too.
kiya

This game is rated:
7,67
Total votes: 1163

that's ok - was a very quiet night.

More agreement here, Lockmar.

Perhaps the site's decision has sent out a message to the attackers also. There have been only 10 votes cast in the past two hours, which certainly is not the way things had been going up til now. And <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" /> is still #1.

But finding out what was behind the change makes more sense than blindly launching an attack ourselves... That may just cause us more grief in the long run.

And as Kiya says, there are other ways we can and should support <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" />.

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Ah well ,seeing as though i can only vote every 4 days i 'll still vote on one of the next 3 games below us and give it a wopping great 1 out of 10 untill i'm able to give <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" /> another 10 out of 10.It's my very own rotation system.
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/kitty.gif" alt="" /> Under the thumb then pussy??

This game is rated:
7,66
Total votes: 1169

we're going down <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" />

Do you think that Larian is laughing at us for doing this???? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Think? I can hear them all the way over here from my house.

This game is now rated:
7,63
Total votes: 1186

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They fixed it in a way that downvoting rules.
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mornin/afternoon seth <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />

vote here!


YaaaaY!! i Vote today 7.63 1187 votes!

coffee time!
Ahhhhhhhhh! steaming cup of the black juice from hell ....yummy! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

I did. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
Great link Jurak <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />

7.62 1221 votes <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

um...DADDY-O, what great link, are you referring to?? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />

I think it's sarcasm <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shhh.gif" alt="" />

Hi everyone,

Voting is kind of on a standstill because some of the forum members here are concerned about the consequences of overvoting. Riftruner is still number one though...

Thanks.

Hi,

I also sent out a letter to the creator of the website: (Here it is...comments or constructive criticism welcome...)

Hi,

I am a Riftrunner fan. You may recall that Kiya sent out an email giving suggestions as to what to do about the downvoting...a copy...
Hi Tomas,

thank you very much for fixing and informing me. As I'm a newbie in this voting business I forwarded your suggestion to the other gamers. They say, someone could be fast and use up all 50 votes - downvoting - and your site would turn into a lair of lions prowling on each other:

The "bad guys" can "downvote" 50 times in 5 minutes if they want to, while "upvoting" their favorite game, leaving the fair voters no chance at all anymore to vote... It's probably even easier to abuse it that way because you can't counter it efficiently.

The problem here is : you just vote 50 times with dynamic ip adres. and the "normal voters" cannot vote anymore...



We have other suggestions, here a few out of the idea pool:

no log in = no vote...
Users must register if they wish to vote, and then only be able to vote one vote, per game, per day,
not every four days - that's probably where the problem is starting... So you have 10 votes/day but only one for each game.

I think visibility may be an idea. You can only vote if you log in under a specific user name which you have registered. Another condition can be set into place. A person can look at a user's profile and see how they have voted on different games. People might be less likely to vote 1's if they know others will find out who it is that is doing it.



A temporary registration - even gamers with a vivid phantasy should have troubles of registering in 50xhour and always using a different name? And you have to hit the reg.-button BEFORE you can vote? The reg.-nick is stored somewhere, so same nicks can't vote? Registration is merely done via mail-addy? Even this slows down.

AND surplus the chance to vote again when something new has come out for that game. Like a new interview or so.

So, our wish would be this:
Please change your regulations and let only registered members vote your poll. I believe, you can control this better then:
One vote per day per game - making a total of 10 voting possibilities for 10 different games.

BTW, I tested my voting speed a few days ago: I need between 14-19 sec/vote or 2x as much, if my IP had already voted.

Thank you very much for your interest, looking forward to your answer

yours sincerely
a very relieved Kiya
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Kiya claims no answer until yet and we would really like a response to these ideas as soon as possible.
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Anyway, I and other Riftrunner fans including Kiya are concerned about your recent response to Riftrunner's number of votes. A large number of them were deleted. Some of the Riftrunner fans want a detailed explanation as to why this was done. Some of us have expressed concern over the excessive amount of downvoting directed towards Riftrunner compared to other games. I feel that Riftrunner's voting is bound to go up. Some of us are caught in a dilemma as we feel it is unfair that we are experiencing so many negative votes and want to compensate by voting more. Yet, if we do decide to vote more, we don't know what the consequences will be. If we vote less, we experience the attack of downvoting which we don't want. For a long time, many of us have followed a policy of only voting our own game with high ratings but there are others who have even declared downvoting to be an act of war and are considering downvoting other games. I don't want to turn this into a war but some emotions are running high. If downvoting starts to become a norm, I feel the voting environment is not going to be conducive any more. Will the site administrators decide to reduce the number of votes or will they do something else? Some of us would like answers to these concerns. This is becoming a time sensitive issue for some.

Thanks for reading.

P.S. Please respond as soon as possible.

I like that!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />

I wonder <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badsmile2.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badsmile2.gif" alt="" /> looking at every one closely