Originally Posted by Zerubbabel
Originally Posted by Odieman
No, thats possible. But its certainly not the norm, those Paladins are in a minority. The norm is that Paladins Get their power from their chosen deity/deities. Hence if Larian implemented something similar/copy of Cleric its ok to have an option like «none» in my opninion.

Dont think that it has been brought up in this thread. But Ive seen people argue in other threads on this forum on this same topic, as well as on Reddit, that Paladin powers dont come from deities. But rather some random oath force (i.e thin air). Hence ny previous post.


This is just a personal their, but I think WOTC implemented The whole powers connected to oaths was to give an alternative to the stereotype. They did it to have a more loose system that wasnt as rigid. Also its alot easier to Connect stuff to more general oaths that can cover several deities in one oath. Rather than make specific oaths to each god etc. Thats just my theory though, havent really read up on reason for emphasis change.
In that case, I agree with what you are suggesting and I think much of the forum is in fact in agreement with you. We all just have different ways of expressing it.

Yep, agreed.

I am aware that there are a host of non-PHB paladin oaths/subclasses, some of which sound from the tenets of their oaths to potentially be less necessarily connected to gods than others and it would make sense if part of the (out of universe) explanation for loosening the connection between paladins and gods was to support this greater variety. I suppose the same consideration applies to some extent to Oath of Vengeance even within the PHB.

I’d be interested if anyone here has any evidence that the sources of power for such paladins isn’t still divine in nature, though, even if it comes from the divine portfolios or domains in some cases rather than directly from specific gods. I don’t remember seeing anyone on these forums claiming that, and I had thought paladins powers were always still divine, but as I’ve said before on these forums, I’m a 5e newbie and am learning as I go with BG3 and certainly have neither read every post here nor remembered every one I have!


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