Originally Posted by Silver/
Originally Posted by Odieman
Originally Posted by Zerubbabel
I'm not all that certain what you are arguing here. Maybe you can help clear it up with a yes or no answer to the following:
Do you think ALL paladins HAVE to be devoted to a specific deity NO MATTER WHAT and there CANNOT exist a Paladin which does not express devotion to a specific, named deity? (Meaning the option not to follow a deity should NOT exist?)


No, thats possible. But its certainly not the norm, those Paladins are in a minority. The norm is that Paladins Get their power from their chosen deity/deities. Hence if Larian implemented something similar/copy of Cleric its ok to have an option like «none» in my opninion.

Dont think that it has been brought up in this thread. But Ive seen people argue in other threads on this forum on this same topic, as well as on Reddit, that Paladin powers dont come from deities. But rather some random oath force (i.e thin air). Hence my previous post.


This is just a personal theory, but I think The reason why WOTC implemented The whole powers connected to oaths thing, was to give an alternative to the traditional stereotype. They did it to have a more loose system that wasnt as rigid. Also its alot easier to Connect stuff to more general oaths that can cover several deities in one oath. Rather than make specific oaths to each god etc. Thats just my theory though, havent really read up on reason for emphasis change.
Considering that a devotion paladin can straight up kill the false paragon of Tyr for "abandoning your god", I'm pretty confident the broader religious mechanics are either
1) not implemented yet
2) roleplayed
It is clear so far, however, that subclass currently matters more than choice of deity for oathbreaking.

Well Tyr and Paladins of Tyr tend to mostly see The world, Justice and law in black and white. They tend to be stubborn hardasses ( I went in deep in that lore, played a Half orc Paladin, oath of the Crown devoted to Tyr for 4 years). I went a bit off the course, and I had to to a redemption question in order to not be an oathbreaker).


Anyway
This being the case, a paladin masquerading as a Tyr worshipper, or a Tyr paladin breaking his oath, are pretty much fair game for Tyr and his followers. So I dont think they would mind.

But yeah its more roleplay than anything at this point Even with mods. Remains to be seen if Larian will refine oaths/oathbreaking/ Devotion to gods. I hope they do, But I dont expect them to. Giving a similar list that clerics get or an improved system is a must though.

Last edited by Odieman; 31/01/23 07:04 PM.

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