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One of the reasons that the indigenous populations of the Americas were so devastated by the coming of Europeans (aside from us being a bit awful to them) was that they hadn’t inherited genetic resistances to small pox and other common diseases of the Old World.
Exactly ... they come to contact with bacterias, or viruses their body didnt know ...
Wich is litteraly what would happen to you.

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Those left over to parent the next generation had more efficient immune responses and thus, so do their children.
Childern sure ... bcs there we are talking about 20-30y difference, and those childerns often live in same living conditions ...
But the more generations come in between, the less im willing to believe that your body is carrying some ultimate imunity against illness, that may not even exist nowadays ...

And there is lots of generations in 4000y. laugh

Originally Posted by Warlocke
So if you traveled into the past you would be taking generations of built in immunity to diseases with you, and wouldn’t need to worry very much about getting very sick.
Well, since we would never know ... i think we can agree to disagree.
If you would ever invent time traveling, let me know ... i would gladly be prooven wrong. laugh

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Viruses and fungi are fascinating little buggers.
Indeed!

I mean, im no biologist, bacteriologist nor virologist myself ... obviously. laugh
But from what i have read (and i may have undersand it wrong), most mutations exist trough pure coincidence ... all those "little buggers" as you (and certain old lady) say, are basicaly constantly evolving, in incredible speed ... luckily for us, most of their mutations are not too dangerous for us ... until they are. :-/
But jut that they are teoreticaly able to create thousands variations of themselves, wittin few weeks (maybe even faster) ... well, if this isnt fascinating, i dont really know what would be. laugh

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Originally Posted by Warlocke
I remember in the run up to Origins BioWare said they could reproduce but together but don’t often and if they do the offspring is either just human or just an elf.
Yeah, basicaly that ...
https://dragonage.fandom.com/wiki/Elf-blooded

Im not really sure if we should read that from genetical perspective Half Elves equal to humans litterally ... or just take it as if there is any distinction they are not able to find it in Thedas.
(wich i just cant help the feeling that some should be there, but i understand that they didnt want to bother with it, even WotC are throwing halfbreeds away)

Still ...
That is my headcannon. :P
Elves breeded with humans, linger around humans, and in general were often figuratively becoming humans more and more ... until they started even look similar.

And until BioWare will provide us any better explanation, that is what i stick to. laugh
(And yes, i would probably accept even that Solas as a child fall on his head laugh )

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Studios don’t like announcing games being canceled. Public admission of failure isn’t good publicity.
Yeah ...
Exactly my point. frown

But nobody can seriously feel mad at me (at least i wouldnt say they could) if i call companty that takes my money, then for few true that but still years, are just promising "we will tell you when there will be something to say" ... and eventualy one day anounce cancelation ...
When i call that company bag of shitheads. :-/

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Originally Posted by Saito Hikari
I peeked in here for the first time in weeks and I already regret it.

Why are we allowing bad faith actors turn this forum into yet another tiring political battleground?

Ssshh! We’re talking loudly about elven genetics in the Dragon Age franchise in the hopes it’ll drown out inappropriate discussions of real world politics.


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Ha, if I ever travel into the past I’ll let you know.

One correction though: ALL mutations are random. Most are benign, some are bad, and those that are good and provide the organism with a better chance at survival and passing them on.

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Originally Posted by Saito Hikari
I peeked in here for the first time in weeks and I already regret it.

Why are we allowing bad faith actors turn this forum into yet another tiring political battleground?

Ssshh! We’re talking loudly about elven genetics in the Dragon Age franchise in the hopes it’ll drown out inappropriate discussions of real world politics.

Glad I’m not the only one taking the conspicuous re-derailment approach. ❤️

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Yeah, trying to bring scientific genetics into it probably doesn't pan out. It's supposed to reinforce the elves as a oppressed minority slowly going extinct. Pertinent to Solas' story.

Let me also re-endorse Final Fantasy VII Remake. Apart from a dodgy climax, it's fun, and the battle system is the first time I've enjoyed one of their 'active battle' systems.

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Originally Posted by Saito Hikari
I peeked in here for the first time in weeks and I already regret it.

Why are we allowing bad faith actors turn this forum into yet another tiring political battleground?
Who you calling bad faith actor?

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Not an RPG, but a game I’m loving right now is Gravity Rush 2. It’s not my normal type of game- playing as a magical anime girl isn’t my thing, and the game certainly has its rough edges, but it’s so very unique.




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Actually, here's a general request:
Sell me on your all-time favorite RPG and why everyone on this forum absolutely needs to play it. What makes it the best?


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I made a thread in a similar vein a while backWhat's a good RPG I've never played?
Check out some of the ones there

I'm not entirely sure I can sell you on my all-time favorite RPG, Baldur's Gate II, without going insane here

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Originally Posted by Sozz
Yeah, trying to bring scientific genetics into it probably doesn't pan out. It's supposed to reinforce the elves as a oppressed minority slowly going extinct. Pertinent to Solas' story.

Let me also re-endorse Final Fantasy VII Remake. Apart from a dodgy climax, it's fun, and the battle system is the first time I've enjoyed one of their 'active battle' systems.


I adore FF7R. I’m not much for nostalgia, but getting to replay a cherished childhood game that looks this good and plays so wonderfully is a treat for me.

And I actually like what they are doing insofar that the end sets up

the dramatic tension of not knowing if we can save Aerith from her fated death. I don’t know if you are old enough to remember, but in the halcyon days before the internet as it is, the desire to find a secret to save Aerith was so potent in our young minds. I like that SE is playing on this.

I’ve also always been a big fan of Yuffie and her don’t give no fucks attitude, so that the DLC really did her justice by giving her a stronger story motivation to join the party and her own Sephiroth facsimile is just great for me.

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Originally Posted by Zerubbabel
Actually, here's a general request:
Sell me on your all-time favorite RPG and why everyone on this forum absolutely needs to play it. What makes it the best?

Planescape Torment remains in my eyes an unmatched achievement in video games. All RPG players that can handle some retro jank need to play it.

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Originally Posted by Saito Hikari
I peeked in here for the first time in weeks and I already regret it.

Why are we allowing bad faith actors turn this forum into yet another tiring political battleground?

psh, of course YOU'D say that

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Let me also re-endorse Final Fantasy VII Remake. Apart from a dodgy climax, it's fun, and the battle system is the first time I've enjoyed one of their 'active battle' systems.


I adore FF7R. I’m not much for nostalgia, but getting to replay a cherished childhood game that looks this good and plays so wonderfully is a treat for me.

And I actually like what they are doing and hit the end sets up

the dramatic tension of not knowing if we can save Aerith from her fated death. I don’t know if you are old enough to remember, but in the halcyon days before the internet as it is, the desire to find a secret to save Aerith was so potent in our young minds. I like that SE is playing on this.

I’ve also always been a big fan of Yuffie and her don’t give no fucks attitude, so that the DLC really did her justice by giving her a stronger story motivation to join the party and her own Sephiroth facsimile is just great for me.

I'm not precious about 'sticking to the script', but I think similar to the most recent Star Wars trilogy, there's a potential for the game, in an effort to subvert the narrative, to fall flat on its face.
I'm more baffled by the recent need intellectual properties feel to, in-universe, justify changing their stories. You could have had the climax of the second act be different from the original without having Crisis on Infinite Fantasies. I've just replayed Remake and I really began to resent whenever the Whisper showed up in the story.

The first third of FFVII is really what made that game for me, I'd say everything up to the city of the ancients is great, while everything after is good. A lot of that hinges on Aerith's death, changing that should have me worried, but because they handled everything so well in Remake, I'm still worryingly optimistic about the next one.

Also I'm not invested in the extended Final Fantasy VII universe, so adding all the Zacks and Advent Children stuff won't do much for me.

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Originally Posted by Zerubbabel
Actually, here's a general request:
Sell me on your all-time favorite RPG and why everyone on this forum absolutely needs to play it. What makes it the best?
For me, I would highly recommend the following:

Crown of the Magister - One of the best modern technical interpretations of D&D I've ever played. admittedly the first story was very linear and the dungeons were, for the most part, very small. Still, overall the game was fantastic. And the DLC was quite good and not as linear.

ToEE - Admittedly a quite old game, and fairly broken on launch. If you download the C08 patches it gets MUCH better. And yet another fantastic interpretation of D&D, albeit an earlier one than BG3. And the story is fairly light. But as far as dungeon crawlers, it is amazing. There are even several C08 additional content packs worth playing.

And if you want to REALLY Old School, try out the original Gold Box SSI games. You can get them on Steam for pretty much a song (I think I got the entire collection for less than 10 dollars US, containing something like 15 games).

Pool of Radiance (SSI Gold Box) was fantastic and well worth the playtime.
Curse of the Azure Bonds has it's issues but is still worth the time
Secret of the Silverblades is FANTASTIC and my favorite of the bunch
Pools of Darkness was quite good but suffered from artificially spiking the difficulty using BS methods.

The Krynn SSI games are also tons of fun, particularly if you enjoy that setting. Admittedly, towards the end they start relying on cheap tactics to artificially increase difficulty, such as making every other monster level draining undead that are highly resistant to Turn Undead. But if you can get around that, you are in for a great time.

The "Into the Wild" set from there is pretty good, but the other two settings were better.

The Eye of the Beholder set was variably pretty good as well. The first one is the best, but the others are worth playing.

And if you haven't experienced Hillsfar? Oh, boy are you in for an experience.

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Let me also re-endorse Final Fantasy VII Remake. Apart from a dodgy climax, it's fun, and the battle system is the first time I've enjoyed one of their 'active battle' systems.


I adore FF7R. I’m not much for nostalgia, but getting to replay a cherished childhood game that looks this good and plays so wonderfully is a treat for me.

And I actually like what they are doing and hit the end sets up

the dramatic tension of not knowing if we can save Aerith from her fated death. I don’t know if you are old enough to remember, but in the halcyon days before the internet as it is, the desire to find a secret to save Aerith was so potent in our young minds. I like that SE is playing on this.

I’ve also always been a big fan of Yuffie and her don’t give no fucks attitude, so that the DLC really did her justice by giving her a stronger story motivation to join the party and her own Sephiroth facsimile is just great for me.

I'm not precious about 'sticking to the script', but I think similar to the most recent Star Wars trilogy, there's a potential for the game, in an effort to subvert the narrative, to fall flat on its face.
I'm more baffled by the recent need intellectual properties feel to, in-universe, justify changing their stories. You could have had the climax of the second act be different from the original without having Crisis on Infinite Fantasies. I've just replayed Remake and I really began to resent whenever the Whisper showed up in the story.

The first third of FFVII is really what made that game for me, I'd say everything up to the city of the ancients is great, while everything after is good. A lot of that hinges on Aerith's death, changing that should have me worried, but because they handled everything so well in Remake, I'm still worryingly optimistic about the next one.

Also I'm not invested in the extended Final Fantasy VII universe, so adding all the Zacks and Advent Children stuff won't do much for me.

I can understand that.


Multiverse fatigue in pop culture is understandable.

I’m willing to give SE faith and see where this going. My personal theory is that Zack from the alternate timeline is going to find a way into the main one to try save Aerith for the sake of love and die in the process.

And SE have said the Whispers were just a Remake thing so you won’t need to deal with them anymore at least. 😂

I’m also not invested in the compilation material, but that actually works for me because I don’t know who these characters are. I’m hoping that the Yuffie storyline will be a DLC thing; each part of the trilogy gets a Yuffie and eventually Yuffie and Vincent side story where they handle that content separately from the main story. That would be ideal, I think.


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Whoa! Apparently some Dreadwolf gameplay just got leaked. If this is true (the footage wasn’t shown, just still images) the game is very different. It’s now a God of War style action game and party control has been completely eliminated.

Well, I wasn’t expecting that.

Now I’m looking forward to BG3 and FF7Rebirth even more. Party based RPGs are getting rarer. Both the Pillars of Eternity spin off and FF16 are doing away with party controls too.

Edit: saw a tiny bit of footage on Twitter and God, it looks like trash. Clunky combat and stiff animations. No wonder they aren’t sharing it yet. I know it’s still alpha, but yikes.

Dreadwolf leak

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Originally Posted by Warlocke
Whoa! Apparently some Dreadwolf gameplay just got leaked. If this is true (the footage wasn’t shown, just still images) the game is very different. It’s now a God of War style action game and party control has been completely eliminated.

Well, I wasn’t expecting that.

Now I’m looking forward to BG3 and FF7Rebirth even more. Party based RPGs are getting rarer. Both the Pillars of Eternity spin off and FF16 are doing away with party controls too.

Edit: saw a tiny bit of footage on Twitter and God, it looks like trash. Clunky combat and stiff animations. No wonder they aren’t sharing it yet. I know it’s still alpha, but yikes.

Dreadwolf leak
I guess I shouldn't be surprised. I think you could only give commands to your squad mates in Inquisition.
That's actually totally wrong, man it's been a while since I played Inquisition

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I guess they decided to just give up on tactical action hybrid for straight action. That wouldn’t give me such hesitation but for BioWare’s reputation for unimpressive animations. For any other game I’d say what they’ve shown could very well be unpolished placeholders but given that it’s BioWare, I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t improve. The character model’s armor is super awkward looking too, but that typical for the series.

I don’t know if BioWare is long for this world. Might be another acquisition casualty left in EA’s wake.

But I’m not prescient, could be totally wrong. Maybe it will be great.

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Originally Posted by Warlocke
Originally Posted by Zerubbabel
Actually, here's a general request:
Sell me on your all-time favorite RPG and why everyone on this forum absolutely needs to play it. What makes it the best?

Planescape Torment remains in my eyes an unmatched achievement in video games. All RPG players that can handle some retro jank need to play it.

Yes.

https://www.nytimes.com/2000/04/27/...verse-where-ideas-can-trump-actions.html

Planescape: Torment is considered literature by the New York Times.


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Originally Posted by Warlocke
Whoa! Apparently some Dreadwolf gameplay just got leaked. If this is true (the footage wasn’t shown, just still images) the game is very different. It’s now a God of War style action game and party control has been completely eliminated.

Well, I wasn’t expecting that.

Now I’m looking forward to BG3 and FF7Rebirth even more. Party based RPGs are getting rarer. Both the Pillars of Eternity spin off and FF16 are doing away with party controls too.

Edit: saw a tiny bit of footage on Twitter and God, it looks like trash. Clunky combat and stiff animations. No wonder they aren’t sharing it yet. I know it’s still alpha, but yikes.

Dreadwolf leak

hit F for Dragon Age - nice work Bioware. Well, at least there isn't anything else they can ruin. /s


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Originally Posted by Warlocke
Whoa! Apparently some Dreadwolf gameplay just got leaked. If this is true (the footage wasn’t shown, just still images) the game is very different. It’s now a God of War style action game and party control has been completely eliminated.
That what I thought was revealed in this weird promotional video.

Honestly, DA will be better of going for action gameplay - RPG systems of DA were never great, and Bioware lost any interest in team based combat after origins. Anything will be better than DA2/Inquisition's combat


Originally Posted by Warlocke
Edit: saw a tiny bit of footage on Twitter and God, it looks like trash. Clunky combat and stiff animations. No wonder they aren’t sharing it yet. I know it’s still alpha, but yikes.
I really wouldn't worry about the presentation - it is a leak, not footage intended for showcase. All that it shows, I think, is that game is unlikely to release this year.

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