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Well, it's not just breasts but everything which sexually attract a man. Flashing and further sexual act is always a thing when you get gameplay benefits from it, especially when this act it's fitted in right encounters and circumstances. If you always feel asexual or some moral principles doesn't allow you to do that, you just simply don't press this dialog options.

It's both utility and emotional positive experience. First, you get material benefits and secondly you get free virtual boobies and the unique dialogs when playing female character. The game respectively gets less gender neutral.

LMAO. This is hilarious.

Without meaning any offence or personal attack, the way that China culturally treats its women is historically abominable, in the contemporary world still pretty atrocious; they're still petty close to the bottom of the barrel on the majority of indices that measure rights and equalities; the idea that you would automatically ascribe a mental health issue, or substance abuse problem to a woman who is comfortable showing off her body for potential gain is itself just disgusting and offensive.

I'd happily admit to having used elements of my physical capabilities in exchange for something else I want - I don't see any shame or problem with that when the other party knows and understands the deal they're making of their own free will... and it's frankly pretty gross and ridiculous to think that someone of your mind set might automatically assume I'm a drug addict just for the presentation of that information.


You write as though you want this all and only exclusively available as a thing to purely heterosexual female characters, and being directed only at purely heterosexual male NPCs; no women who sleep with women, bisexuals or males of any description doing sexual things for gain in dialogue.

I know a number of men who are not attracted by breasts or any other part of female anatomy, and it has nothing to do with morality or a lack of sexual interest - Are you asking that NPCs with those preferences not exist the game?

I just took it that FreeTheSlaves was thinking, as I confess I was given the suggestion made by the OP, of the likely reaction if a woman went around randomly and repeatedly flashing her chest to men just going about their lives who had not asked for it and would not be expecting it. And I would imagine that many such men would indeed be startled and concerned rather than titillated, even if they were all in favour of breasts in other contexts.

But it’s clear that the interest of the OP in a boob-flashing feature is extremely niche, and we all know Larian aren’t going to implement anything like it. I think we’d need a proposal for functionality that enables our characters to use their sexuality that more of us can take seriously before we can have a constructive discussion about it.

If anyone wants to make such a suggestion, then please knock yourselves out, but otherwise let’s keep it light! And perhaps away from discussion of specific countries’ treatment of women, which is something I also feel passionately about IRL, but to which this doesn’t feel the right place to do justice.

Oh, and I may come to regret this, but @Bardhuk I think you’ve probably got enough indication from this thread that there’s not really any demand here for the feature you suggested, so if I were you I’d drop it. But if you genuinely do want folk to engage with it properly rather than treat it as a joke, I think you’re going to have to make a more compelling case. You say it would have gameplay benefits when flashing was “fitted in right encounters and circumstances”. I think most of us are struggling to imagine what those encounters or circumstances might be. Concrete examples may help … or may just make things worse.

It's simple, for Npc's with those preferences the roll chances should be automatically failure

I bet many of them would pretend it ... for various reasons.
But quite honestly cant really imagine man who would mean it.

I don't think ANYONE except Bardhuk is taking this thread seriously (maybe one or two people at best). It has to be a joke.

Even when this forum is also horny posting on main it's still better than reddit

Okay, so let's flesh this out and make it a constructive suggestion, if you're serious about it...

To work the way you're suggesting, each individual NPC (or at minimum, those for whom persuasion options are to be written) would have to be written with an existing intimate preference in mind. There are a couple of ways you could pitch this, and I'll leave it to you/ask you to suggest which way you'd like to pitch your idea:

Option One (Flexible NPCs): In the realms, and as gently guided by developer comments and the DMG in more subtle ways, it's common practice for the vast majority of NPCs to flexible - bisexual or undefined until a situation or detail requires an inclination. If you you were to follow this trend, then there would be no automatic failures, because the NPCs so-propositioned would always be at minimum open to the offer at a theoretical level.

Option Two (Fixed NPCS): As much as the above is common advice and world-building tool-kit, the reality is that most people, in their home games, run NPCs with personality and detail that will often as not include an intimate preference, and the soft universal bisexuality of the realms is overridden with characters more narrow an diverse. There's nothing wrong with this either; in game, this would require that every NPC that was to have such flirtation options would need to have this detail of their personality defined, however, and along with lines and responses, that would be a lot of additional work. In this structure, you'd also want fair representation to be present across the spectrum; you'd equally want to have bisexual NPCs, heterosexual NPCs, and both male and female homosexual NPCs as well. Short of other dialogue or earlier information and clues, the player is not going to know in advance, and the opportunity for disastrous faux pas is, I admit, amusing.

An issue with the second option is that Larian have already tipped their hand in regard to the direction they're taking these matters - All NPCs seem to be at the very least player-sexual, we can choose to separate our sex from our gender identity, and when we do so the entire universe and everyone in it psychically knows about this in advance of meeting us, and respects it completely no matter how puppy-murderingly evil or insultingly disdainful of us they otherwise are. As bad for immersion as that is, that's what we're working with, currently.

Beyond this, regardless of how you choose to set the system up, it needs to be accessible to all players - so we'd need to have both male and female propositions lined up for each instance where such a proposition was planned - and generally speaking the way women flirt with women, women flirt with men, men flirt with men, and men flirt with women are all subtly (sometimes not so subtly) different; The usual caveat needs to be stated here: everyone is different and there are no universal truths about this, just trends... but I can certainly say that the way in which I flirt with or make an offer to another woman is substantially different from how I approach doing so with a male I'm interested in. So how would you suggest this be handled?

We can try to make the offers tailored to each instance and each NPC that they're intended for; given the game's current structure you'd need at least three distinct options to be coded and developed for each NPC that was persuadable/able to be propositioned in this way, and unless they're very few, that would be a monumental amount of work. Alternatively, if we don't make each one custom, then we'd need a generic instance of the proposition that could be fit to every persuadable NPC instead, and we'd still need several of them to account for different configurations - less work by a long shot, but also cruder and less satisfying at a story and immersion level.

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Lastly, it's best to understand that from Larian's perspective, the game is now feature complete (or nearly so),and at the polish stages of development. They aren't going to be sourcing new features to implement from these forums or any other social platform at this point. So, it's worth bearing in mind that what we discuss here is ultimately going to do its best work inspiring a mod-maker to develop something to suite this idea, come release time.

With that in mind though - we can certainly flesh out the idea into a proposal that someone could be inspired by.

It's difficult for me to take this stuff seriously, but to add to Niara, there also had decisions to be made for what dialogs and situation such a "physical attraction" could be an option. Not only in China it most often would be seen more as a problem of mental sanity if a woman or man would show deliberately intimate parts of her/his body for example to get better information about the way to the next train station (or the place of an explosion) or to get her/his buns (or potions) for less money. In more intimate and complicated situations sexual attraction might be used, but surely not by simply showing "the boobs", that's ridiculous. Maybe in front of the toilet in a bar when all participants are very drunk it could be valid, but should that be simulated?

If sexual attraction can be used (and it for sure plays a role in interactions sometimes), than not only the sexual orientation has to be modeled but also sexual visual preferences. There are a lot of men and women in exist who would receive nothing if they "flashed their boobs" in front of me. That cannot be simulated by the roll of a dice because it's an all or nothing thing.

So the effort would be high to implement such a system and the gain would be quite small in my opinion, if you wanted to avoid extreme stereotypes.

It needs so many factors as to be impossible to execute... in a way that doesn't make the flashed just look extremely lecherous and or stupid 🫤

That also means it's fine if your target is both, a goblin, or even /asks for a strip show/. OP wants it to haggle or build companion approval, though

At this point, we've theorycrafted a complicated enough system with so many variables that it really just returns to: Make a Persuasion Roll. The variance in the d20 roll will account for their orientation/preferences.

Ngl this is better than the meme thread. Top notch troll.

At first I was rigidly opposed to the idea but my opinions have softened some and now I could swing either way.

The fundamental problem here is what others have already deftly pointed out. Implementing anything like this in a way that's mature and not purely juvenile titilation of the sort games were and sometimes still are accused of would require such a level of depth and complexity that devs couldn't justify it as a side system. At a certain point it crosses a threshold where if you're going to devote the time and attention to it, you're almost better off using this as the framework for its own seperate game. And I also don't enjoy pretending that this whole topic wasn't started as either bad faith or a dumb, juvenile request at its core.

I'm not sure where this thread exits anymore, somewhere between farce and fiction.

Man I love Donkey Hoté

Exactly. When I read the initial post I simply dismissed as a somewhat juvenile troll.

But I confess that I've since changed my mind; I find this thread titillating and I've taken it to my bosom.

I was ready to dismiss this out of hand...then you brought up your bosom, and I'm magically convinced...