Originally Posted by Blackheifer
In The Last of Us Joel is the villain.

Well, he is A villain. That we see the best of him, that he is sentimental, that he has been hurt. that he is capable, that he can protect people, that he has lost more than most humans and been driven to the very edge of sanity with loss - these are just the reasons for his behavior. He is not intentionally viscous or hateful. He does try to spare people.

That doesn't stop him from doing something absolutely unforgivable. Even Ellie, who loves and trust him more than anyone had to struggle to forgive him. This is real human villainy.

Then there is the dramatic Vaudevillian silliness of Irenicus. Great voice acting but really - so dramatic and over the top all the time. It is fun though, but Irenics - when he meets his end - is like scratching a self-righteous itch. No tears for Jon Irenicus.

Nobody feels that way when Joel dies.

Not really a fan of Last of Us, it is just a mash up/recycle of different movies/franchises including Children of Men. There is really nothing original about LoU. Joel is also the protagonist, so he is constructed/portrayed differently. Irenicus is quite complex and has many subtleties (including his initial dungeon) that I discussed extensively in a thread years ago.

But I give you that LoU at least has some organic dialogues and it is a game from 2013. So it is really outrageous when you see BG3 in 2023 with a massive budget still doing these corny lines.

Originally Posted by snowram
Seems like you are cherry-picking a trailer which was already cherry-picked to deliver as much content as possible in a 1:30 minute time frame.

I wish this was true. But unfortunately the EA is full of poor writing.