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Apart from that shield, I saw nothing about Abdel. Which is good, because I haven't met anyone, who actually liked the idea of a canon Gorions Ward, not to mention the most boring combo at that.

Just doing a rerun with a female halfling mage/ rogue and happily ignoring Abdel away.

Even the invention of this shield is highly questionable and unnecessary for me. You'd think the inventor hadn't played BG 1. Because there is a shield for the MC for sale at Taerom Fuiruim and the lore text of the shield simply fits the MC like a glove...

Which MC? Mage/ thieves can't wear shields, so it doesn't fit my MC.


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Originally Posted by fylimar
Which MC? Mage/ thieves can't wear shields, so it doesn't fit my MC.

That is correct. Casters or thieves can't do much with the shield, of course. I took the classic archetypal and outdated approach of a tank / brute fighter or pala hero as MC. I kept in my mind that Gorion's Ward was canonically declared a fighter, regardless of other details. Which makes sense, since Imoen is the thief and later also a mage. After all, there are a lot of “class cannons” at the very beginning of BG 1 and a lack of toughness.

Back in days it was always fun to me playing a warlock apprentice as Gorions Ward but my very first character was indeed a paladin. If you remember the later course of events, that Balthazar was pretty much the only supposedly good class / character with Bhaal essence, then a paladin who struggles with his heritage and overcomes it under the guidance of Gorion and the Harpers makes the most sense to me personally. One has to put into proportion that not all Bhaal characters / classes were evil, but somehow only the MC, Imoen and Balthazar were somewhat “good aligned” (depending on how you play). Having only Balthazar, who rejects his heritage, is not differentiated enough for me.

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Originally Posted by Lotus Noctus
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Which MC? Mage/ thieves can't wear shields, so it doesn't fit my MC.

That is correct. Casters or thieves can't do much with the shield, of course. I took the classic archetypal and outdated approach of a tank / brute fighter or pala hero as MC. I kept in my mind that Gorion's Ward was canonically declared a fighter, regardless of other details. Which makes sense, since Imoen is the thief and later also a mage. After all, there are a lot of “class cannons” at the very beginning of BG 1 and a lack of toughness.

Back in days it was always fun to me playing a warlock apprentice as Gorions Ward but my very first character was indeed a paladin. If you remember the later course of events, that Balthazar was pretty much the only supposedly good class / character with Bhaal essence, then a paladin who struggles with his heritage and overcomes it under the guidance of Gorion and the Harpers makes the most sense to me personally. One has to put into proportion that not all Bhaal characters / classes were evil, but somehow only the MC, Imoen and Balthazar were somewhat “good aligned” (depending on how you play). Having only Balthazar, who rejects his heritage, is not differentiated enough for me.
I don't think, I ever played a fighter or paladin in my whole 30 years of DnD. And no human either. I like playing carefree chaotic characters, but more leaning towards good. So mage/ thief is a great combination. If I don't play that than bard or druid, Ajantis and Khalid can get hit in the front, I'm the brains of the whole thing ( though Khalid has pretty high intelligence for a fighter).
Imoen gets usually reclassed or ditched, since I had her with me enough times and I don't really care about her that much.


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Originally Posted by fylimar
I don't think, I ever played a fighter or paladin in my whole 30 years of DnD. And no human either. I like playing carefree chaotic characters, but more leaning towards good. So mage/ thief is a great combination. If I don't play that than bard or druid, Ajantis and Khalid can get hit in the front, I'm the brains of the whole thing ( though Khalid has pretty high intelligence for a fighter). Imoen gets usually reclassed or ditched, since I had her with me enough times and I don't really care about her that much.

Yes companions of the small races who are not evil (Yeslick & Alora) are unfortunately only found quite late in BG1. I also never understood why they made Kagain & Korgan into evil dwarves... I would have liked at least Kagain to have a good or neutral alignment and a reunion with him in BG2...

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Originally Posted by Lotus Noctus
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I don't think, I ever played a fighter or paladin in my whole 30 years of DnD. And no human either. I like playing carefree chaotic characters, but more leaning towards good. So mage/ thief is a great combination. If I don't play that than bard or druid, Ajantis and Khalid can get hit in the front, I'm the brains of the whole thing ( though Khalid has pretty high intelligence for a fighter). Imoen gets usually reclassed or ditched, since I had her with me enough times and I don't really care about her that much.

Yes companions of the small races who are not evil (Yeslick & Alora) are unfortunately only found quite late in BG1. I also never understood why they made Kagain & Korgan into evil dwarves... I would have liked at least Kagain to have a good or neutral alignment and a reunion with him in BG2...
True, Kagain doesn't come across very evil, don't really get his alignment.
I like Alora and often make room for her. But since I love playing gnomes and haflings, I'm often one myself, so small race representation is secured. It helps, that in BG2 , Anomen is pretty racist and doesn't start flirting with a gnome or halfling, the guy creeps me out.

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Originally Posted by fylimar
True, Kagain doesn't come across very evil, don't really get his alignment.
I like Alora and often make room for her. But since I love playing gnomes and haflings, I'm often one myself, so small race representation is secured. It helps, that in BG2 , Anomen is pretty racist and doesn't start flirting with a gnome or halfling, the guy creeps me out.

Anomen and Kiser Jhaeri in Saradush were always very funny encounters because of their particularly arrogant personalities and expressions. The responses to make fun of their pompous drivel were hilarious. Only the dialogue with the crazy dragon Saladrex in Watchers Keep could top those two. laugh

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Originally Posted by Lotus Noctus
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True, Kagain doesn't come across very evil, don't really get his alignment.
I like Alora and often make room for her. But since I love playing gnomes and haflings, I'm often one myself, so small race representation is secured. It helps, that in BG2 , Anomen is pretty racist and doesn't start flirting with a gnome or halfling, the guy creeps me out.

Anomen and Kiser Jhaeri in Saradush were always very funny encounters because of their particularly arrogant personalities and expressions. The responses to make fun of their pompous drivel were hilarious. Only the dialogue with the crazy dragon Saladrex in Watchers Keep could top those two. laugh

Anomen works well, if you gave Keldorn with you, he puts the arrogant jerk in his place a few times.

I can't believe, female characters only got him as love interest. I don't care for narcissistic, self centered and toxic idiots, thank you very much.
I want to romance Mazzy or maybe Valgyar. Or Jaheira.


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Jaheira's romance attempt in BG2 creeped me out. She acted parental towards the protagonist in BG1, then, not even a few weeks passed after her husband got murdered in BG2, she started be interested in the protagonist. Never played a male character in BG2 again. laugh

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Jaheira's romance attempt in BG2 creeped me out. She acted parental towards the protagonist in BG1, then, not even a few weeks passed after her husband got murdered in BG2, she started be interested in the protagonist. Never played a male character in BG2 again. laugh

Yeah after this I always took Aerie and sometimes Vicci.

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Originally Posted by saeran
Jaheira's romance attempt in BG2 creeped me out. She acted parental towards the protagonist in BG1, then, not even a few weeks passed after her husband got murdered in BG2, she started be interested in the protagonist. Never played a male character in BG2 again. laugh
Yeah, to be honest, it was creepy. I would have loved to romance her under different circumstances ( coughBG3cough)


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I would’ve like a few subtle romances. Like one with Jaheira (and some of the NPCs) without all the umm extra. Just tender moment with two that in passing find comfort with one another… Would have been a perfect epilogue moment to just stay friend or move to some more “off screen”.

I would’ve really like to know what happened to more of previous BG companions (Like Mazzy, Aerie, etc)

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