Jesus, you just love being contrary, don't you.
Nah, im just not used to "let the Wookie win" ... do you?
I mean, there is not really any reason to make in personal ...
But since we both do the same thing (lets call it "to stand our ground"), i just wonder if you realize that anything you accuse me off, aply to you aswell.
The shadow druids in game literally do not give two hoots about our condition, they won't even bring it up in the conversation with them
Speaking about excuses ... can you tell us when, or how they find out "about our condition"?
Hint: They dont! The Shadow Druids have operations elsewhere
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The point was that we dont know anything about them.
particularly when the cultists want to kill everyone with a different religion.
Again you are presuming ...
How do you know this? Oh wait i know the answer ... Minthara, right?
Funny story about her, you gonna love it!
See, when we avoid Goblin camp and reach Grymforge, we receive the "voice of the Absolute" cinematic ... you know wich one i mean, right? That one where she present us her chosen, and Shadowheart rush there to our rescue ... or we instincitvely use her artefact, if we killed her.
Now, after this cinematic, we receive buff "protected from the Absolute" or something simmilar is it called ... and if we free Nere with this buff active on us, Nere say that he "dont hear the Absolute anymore" and we can explain to him that he have tadpole and this all is just big scam ... if however we dont have this buff active, he never mentions anything about that ...
You know where im heading with it?
Oh yes, exactly there ... even if we reach Minthara with this buff on oureself, and with this artefact in our pocket ... Mintahra still claims that she "hear the Absolute" ...
So ... what does that say to us?
Well, maybe nothing ... and maybe, juuuuuuust maybe, it confirms that Minthara is exactly the same as every fanatic from real world who claims to hear the divine voice, while in fact, they simply fulfill their own desires, using divine intervention as an excuse.
And if that is right ...
How exactly do you know that this weird sect, that is kidnapping people who hold some kind of positions of power ...
like Grand Duke from Baldur's Gate, religion leader of Goblin tribe, warchief of that tribe, Drow with clear connections to prominent family from Menzoberranzan (surely you noticed her tatoo), Bigest ugliest strongest Gnoll from a pack (aka alfa leader), or i dunno for example Vampire Spawn from coven of very powerfull Vampire lord, legendary folk-hero, Wizard with experience with really uncommon kind of magic, or litteral general from Hell
... how do you know that this sect, to quote you exactly "want to kill everyone with a different religion"?
Doesnt that seem kinda counterproductive, when they spend so much effort and resources when trying to infiltrate those organisations?
It does to me. :-/
You really think the rite of thorns is a one-size-fit all solution to all the Shadow Druid's problems?
Not at all ...
I say they could believe its a solution to curent problem.
You haven't been around the Shadow Druids much.
Yeah i bet you have lots of experience around Shadow Druids from DnD lead by Larian writers ... oh wait, thats true ... you cant, since no such thing exists, except for what we both see in Early Acess ...
So our "experience around Shadow Druids" are exactly the same ... what a surprise.
They are not passive, they are expansionist, and in fact their use of the rite in this game is particularly aggressive, since they aim to use it to isolate the druids of the grove and kill off the ones they don't like so they can gain full control.
So ... proactive, expansionists, radicals, and killing everyone who is not 100% submited to them ...
[irony] Sounds like great team players to me! I bet they would be thrilled to submit to us imediately.
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Come on, you cant be serious. :-/
The fact that you admit that the version of the Shadow Druids you want to see in the game is different than the one in the original saga
I dont know Shadow Druids from "the original saga" as stated several times in the past, i dint play previous games.
I also dont really see any reason to do so, nor to study what they would do back then, or what kind of people they were.
Larian presented me their Shadow Druids, and those are in this game ... their motivations and goals are clear enough to me to see that what you are proposing here goes completely against this concept. :-/
And that all i need to hope you are wrong and what you propose will not happen. :-/
and yet you have the chutzpah to refer to the notion that
'we could work with group X that we could also work with in literally every other game of the series' as
fanfiction is just
I dont really understand this sentence at all. :-/
In what matter?
Here ... read this:
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=railroadingSoo ...
Deffinitions tells us that railroading is forcing players to do something ...
That would mean that this quest should have only one way to advance ...
Lets see ... what can we do ... we can:
- Kill Zevlor, and let Kagha take over the Grove and seal it ...
- Kill Kagha and help Zevlor stay in the Grove ...
- Redeem Kagha and help Zevlor stay in the Grove ...
- Ignore Kagha and save Halsin ... meaning save Tieflings, but let Kagha corupted ...
- Ignore Kagha and kill Halsin ... meaning save Tieflings, and let Kagha seal the Grove afterwards ...
- Join with Goblins and kill Kagha, Zevlor, Halsin and every single person in the Grove ...
- Join with Goblins and kill Kagha, Zevlor and every single person in the Grove ... but not Halsin (fun stuff this one)
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(And maybe i forget some.)I mean ... english is not my first language as you probably see, so maybe something slipped me ... but this doesnt really seem like "railroading the only way to advance in the story" to me.
Yeah, sadly (or luckily depending on your prefferenes) nobody so far created AI that would be creating story as we go trough it ... it have to be prepared in advance, some limitations therefore are inevidable.
I get you are pissed bcs you expected result that didnt come, but that doesnt make it railroad ... if anything it only prooves that your expectations were wrong. :-/
has no accommodations for players who might not be playing good-aligned characters
Sure it have ...
You are perfectly able to play exactly the way you want ... no matter your alignment or intentions ... the only thing you dont get is outcome you wanted, but that is just how it is in every story!
You only control your character (well, your party in this game), but you dont pick how should others respond on your actions.
And if you really, and i mean REALLY, wants to help Shadow Druids to fulfill their plans and intentions ... that path is in game aswell (it was described abowe)!
But i see what you want, you want to join faction that is not supposed to be joinable ... its not supposed to ... deal with it.
and has several obvious dead-ends where content was either cut or otherwise left unfinished. This is not an ideal state.
Indeed ... but its also not a real state, its just your own explanation for not geting your own fantasy fulfilled. :-/
And I do not believe anyone could honestly get as riled up about the idea that it could be improved somewhat as you are.
/shrug
Im honest ... thats all im able or willing to say to persuate you. Take from it whatever you want.
Also ... i noticed you ignored my question ... let me repeat it for you:
What would you do?
A) Send them all instructions to do the ritual ... therefore keep them safe and protected against every and any outside influence or problems ...
B) Send your whole cult into open war, potentialy against rest of the world, with uncertain end, bcs "some random dude in middle of nowhere, interfered with one of your agents asignment, but in the end that dude decided to take your side, after he threatened everything" ...
And again ... be honest.
