Originally Posted by The Red Queen
Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD
Maybe im reading it wrong ... but i dont feel like you are answering my question. O_o

Im asking if curent execution is sufficient ...

Yes, I think that’s what the OP is asking too, and it’s a fair question. I’ve feel like I’ve given my own personal take in this thread already, so if you want a different kind of answer I think we’re going to be reliant on someone else with different preferences. But in case it’s just miscommunication, the short answer from my perspective is that what we have is better than nothing, but no I don’t think it’s sufficient.

I don’t, however, have any particularly strong views about the fact that the current implementation means it’s possible to create a character that would look quintessentially male but would automatically be referred to as “she” by all NPCs, which is why I didn’t comment on that. I feel like I might already have said this earlier in this thread, but personally I’m happy to handwave that particular incongruity and/or play trans characters that I feel can be handled by the game in ways I’m happy to accept. And has been mentioned, in English the gender of the PC is referred to so rarely that I personally don’t feel it’s particularly jarring. Which isn’t to say that there aren’t better or different ways of handling presentation that doesn’t “match” gender identity, and of course others may well be less happy to compromise on the limits the current implementation could be considered to place on the types of trans characters one can plausibly create.

I do like the suggestion of a more androgynous body shape that Brainer made, though that doesn’t go anywhere to solve the issue of trans characters who don’t have such a body like your trans half-orc. I’d be more than happy to discuss what improvements could be made that could make roleplaying such characters more realistic, but don’t personally have any suggestions that I feel are workable and would be a significant improvement.

I have some members of my Guild that are trans - if you like I can reach out to them and see if they are willing to discuss this.

My personal thought/experience is that it's a really thoughtful and inclusive step that Larian has taken. So bravo to them. You can, - of course- always do more. What I have heard is that it would be nice to have some better body types and I agree on that. Fat, thin, muscular, androgynous, old - the more the better.

However, I was also thinking about Ellie from the last of Us Show played by Bella Ramsey. Bella identifies as non-binary and she plays Ellie that way. If you notice her stance and posture is very masculine, she takes up space, she stands with her legs apart, she hunches her back and drops her shoulders forward. There is more, but that's the kind of stuff I caught - she just has a very masculine way of moving and positioning herself. It would be amazing if that could also be part of it.


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