Originally Posted by ZOZO1006
This is some next level of bull...

I’m going to appeal to everyone to try to take the heat out of their language on this topic and, as I’ve said, do their best to engage constructively and without insulting those who have different views.

There is nothing necessarily offensive about thinking that gender nonconformity wouldn’t be a thing in Faerun, and folk who believe that it wouldn’t be are free to explain clearly, calmly why this is so. As long as they are showing good will and at least attempting to avoid insulting those whose real life experiences might be unavoidably bound up in such a discussion. And to avoid dragging in modern real world politics or events, as far as that’s possible when such a debate would need to involve extrapolating from our world to Faerun.

However, it is not clearly “bull” to think that there would and should be trans individuals on Faerun on the basis that it’s not a modern setting. Though specific modern meanings of terms related to gender have only been coming into currency over the last 60 or so years, there’s evidence of various kinds of gender non-conformity throughout human history and in multiple cultures, even in some where there would have been strong taboos against it. Plus, of course, someone might argue that the purpose of the world as a game setting in which players have the flexibility to create the characters they want to play takes precedence over any considerations of “realism” anyway.

In that context, calling allowing players to create trans PCs “next level bull” seems unnecessarily dismissive, though of course people could reasonably disagree that the sorts of considerations I’ve suggested above are compelling or decisive.


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