I'd say people get this idea from the fact that she 1) was found caught in a tiefling trap that she apparently needs us to free her from
1) She dont need us ... if we leave her there, she escapes on her own ... we are just usefull tool that makes things happen faster, nothing more.
2) This is awfully out of context ... yes, she was in the trap, but litteraly just few moments earlier our "strong character on wich she should rely" was lying unconscious with face burrowed in beach sand ... Shadowheart aswell.
I mean ... applying the same rules ... our character should be seen just as weak and dependent
as her.
(I can't remember if it's made clear whether or not she was conscious or not when they caught her though)
I dont think this was mentioned ...
Nor i think such trap would make any sense, those Tieflings surely didnt drag unconcious body to the trap just so they can start arguing if they should kill it.
Especialy since when get there, they are comenting her appearance, just as if they would discover her at same time as we appear.
2) she's travelling with us and listening to us as we travel.
Well, this is argument that is really hard to take seriously ...
We are main character, our followers were made to follow us ... duh ... :-/
No, it makes no sense ... but not many games do all the time.
Why Kazuhira give orders to Venom Snake, even tho Diamond Dogs as organisation "belongs to PC" and our ingame nickname is Big Boss?
Why Aleister get orders from our PC Grey Warden, even tho he have years of experience and we become one litteraly few hours earlier?
Why Emhyr var Emreis didnt get Geralt killed, when he mock him on his own court?
I could probably find more examples, but the point is still same ... bcs the game is telling OUR story, no matter how small or big cogwheel in the whole machinery we are, we still are at its center, everything is turning around our PC character.
So, sorry ... but you cant really use as an argument that NPC do what it was created for. :-/
Based on her personality as shown, if she really thought she was capable of going on her own and not relying on us, then she would kill us all and leave.
I would welcome such outcome ...
But im affraid im in the minority here.
This is a failing of her writing
Agreed ...
Even tho this could be effect of not having whole story yet ... there was several datamined dialogues that is just not acessible trough regular means in EA.
But i certainly loved when Sven attacked my character in DA:Origin, bcs he disagreed with my leadership ... and only after he was "put in line" he submited. :3
I can only hope Lae'zel will have something simmilar.
Consider that even Larian acknowledges that the evil paths in games are taken notably less than the good paths. Most people want to play good characters. They see themselves as the good guys
Thats completely different story tho.
and so when a character is on the good guy's side and clearly starts off as evil, then if people like that character, they will want the character to become more good.
This is something i dont really understand ... even tho i see it very often around me, in real relationships.
Two persons meat each other, find something they like about the other ...
Then they both spend lots of time and energy trying to shape the other more in their own image ...
Usualy one submits sooner or later ... in better cases, they broke up, bcs they give up ...
But if not, somehow in the process something is lost, something that made the other character interesting ... or, if you wish, make them what they are, at least partialy.
Then its only matter of time til sucesfull shaper find out that he dont like this new person ... and they broke up anyway.
Its just as if you are trying to create "perfect face" in character creation, and after hours and hours it finaly seems perfect ... then first cinematic in game play and the only thing you can think about is: "What the fuck is this monstrocity?!"
Shadowheart suffered simmilar fate ... i never liked her and i still dont, but either my memory is so horrible allready, or it seems like parts of her personality were just deleted and now are missing. :-/
Im not a fan of theese changes. :-/
People fundamentally like and enjoy redemption stories
Im aware of this ... and i hate it.
Its not that i dont like redemption story, dont get me wrong ... but i dont think i ever seen single that was made properly ... i mean in games, or movies ... but there was lots of them in books! :-/
Still i think that in order to maintain ballance, games should provide both options.
You want redemption story for Lae'zel?
Ok, i want corruption story for Minsc! :P
They like to see characters grow and change rather than remain statis.
Possibly ...
Problem with games is that such changes often happens so fast, its almost parodic.
Just look at her ...
She is certainly at least 20-30y old ... with no idea how much time she spended in Astral Plane, where they dont age ... so it can be even centuries ...
And during all this time Githyanki doctrine was the only thing she even knew ...
For lets say those 20 years ... she was told that she is supperior in every way ... even if you would beat her, her indoctrinated mind wouldnt see it as proof that it was a lie ... she will understand it as her own failure, bcs doctrine is right, it allways were, and it apply to everyone, so logicaly it have to be her fault.
Thats why i like it so much that she is mad at Kithrak and suspect him from betrayal, bcs that makes sense from her perspective.
Yes, we (players) know that Githyanki are backstabing assholes that only allows you reach so far, before their own queen will devour their soul so nobody too strong will ever appear ...
But Lae'zel have no such information, in her eyes Githyanki are perefectly oiled machinery, that works for centuries, maybe even millenia, under watchfull eyes of her beloved, strick, but fair ruler ...
If you take this all under concideration, how should our little adventure that (in EA) takes barely few days could outweight decades of ... well, basicaly brainwashing?
Even if our full adventure would take year, it would still not be sufficient in my eyes ... unless something so drastic (and dramatic) would happen, so it would right in front of Lae'zel eyes give her undeniable proof that her doctrine was wrong!
And such thing would have to be Vlaakith trying to kill her personaly, in order to get the Weapon.
Only after this i would concider her questioning her values.
But that is probably just my opinion.
