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they shove A LOT to disengage and to wake their allies up.

Shove is broken primarily because of this ^ and that it's a Bonus Action, not to mention the ludicrous distance a shove shoves. Others here have explained why but essentially it nerfs melee characters, and one of the most useful low level spells (Sleep). People have been complaining about this since the beginning of EA but because Larian doesn't give a rat's ass about D&D RAW they probably won't fix it. They absolutely should fix this but they are that DM that overuses the "Rule of Cool" to the point it's no longer cool but annoying.

I enjoy DoS2 and I really like it's more humorous and lighthearted style of rules but D&D has a different flavor because it's RAW is more ridged and grounded, and it's been that way since it's beginnings. It's what makes D&D, well... D&D and the Larian team should respect that. However, like most people who are adapting an IP they didn't create they have little respect for what came before and feel they can do it better, even though no one asked them to. We can see it all over BG3; the Shoves, the jumps, the potions as AOE bombs, and there's probably more things I haven't encountered yet that just show Larian is more interested in making DoS3 than BG3. Will I still enjoy the game? Well so far it's fine and I'll adapt but I'd rather have BG3 be a D&D game with D&D rules and sensibilities and have all this other stuff saved for a DoS3 game I can play another time.

Last edited by FuriousGreg; 07/05/23 05:52 PM.