Originally Posted by Niara
Mizora wants to perv on Wyll getting nookie, and he'd rather she didn't ^.^

I think that if Wyll is one "I'm sexier, just think of me tonight" roll away from shutting Mizora out, that's more of an indication that there's no magical charm involved.

Have you seen Tav? Found yourself awestruck by her presence? Wowed by her way with words? She's very persuasive. What infernal contract could hope to compete?

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I wouldn't say that Wyll necessarily wants to be good, but is failing at it for the most part; I'd say he wants to Be Seen to be good. He's not interested in taking right action that goes against his personal immediate needs... Unless there is a larger watching audience to judge or laude him for it. I think he probably would like to be a good person, and to be the hero the portrays, but only insofar as it generates the perks of heroism and fame for him.

Of course they're lots to what you say. Wyll is an instagram influencer and he reminds me of a certain vegan influencer who was caught eating fish . . . He's a gloryhound and not the hero he's made out to be. BUT. I don't think he would choose to become the feared and revered chosen of Shar if that particular decision offered more glory. Not impossible of course but Tav would need to focus her considerable talents towards Wyll's corruption.

There's a certain way he wants to be perceived and while glory is one of his motivations I don't think it's the only one. He wants to be seen as a hero and he seems to feel sincere regret for signing the contract.
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continually to my face after being called out on doing so, and gaslights my character about it, demeaning me as a crazy idiot, even when we both know he's been found out... He would not risk his life to save mine, unless there were adoring fans to watch him do it, and he especially would not do so if it interfered with the pursuit of his own goals...

I read his lies as bad attempts to keep his secret and he confesses to them almost immediately. I didn't take it as gaslighting - more like a kid caught with hand in a cookie jar claiming he was just trying to help mom by cleaning the insides the jar. The lies are so clumsy they are easy to forgive.

Now, again, you are right to say that Wyll, like Gale, is not telling the full truth about his contract. His initial motivation was probably violent and murderous. And we don't what know what Mizorra wanted from Wyll when she wanted "everything". I'm guessing she wanted a baby.

But, again, he shows sincere signs of remorse. Unlike a certain Wizard.

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If Larian goes with the party exclusion again, then yeah, I agree it's very likely their various reasons for betraying us will be the leverage used at the end of the act to justify that. I'm still saying that it's weak and uninspired story-telling, and mechanically dissatisfying to boot, and I hope they don't do that again.

Agreed - I didn't like that aspect of DOS2 at all. I didn't enjoy fighting my former / would be companions and hope they don't repeat that.

I'm glad you have taken the position of critic - the game really needs one and I hope they are taking your feedback to heart. I think the game has a mix of good and bad story telling. There are some talented writers at Larian - I really enjoy the conversations at camp. Those writers may be being hampered by decisions made by upper management. Time will tell.