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Ooh, your first full playthrough? It’s totally up to you of course, but I don’t know that I’d choose either bard or shaman for that, as both classes have signature abilities that basically involve them standing around doing nothing if they’re going to use them. I think both can be fun despite that, though I’ve never tried shaman on a BG MC given it’s a more recent addition, but for a first run I suspect something that’s suited to being more active might be more engaging as a protagonist.

And yes, there’s a series of six comics written by Jim Zub and starring Minsc along with his new adventuring party that includes Krydle, the son of Coran who is a potential Fighter/Thief companion in BG1. I think they’re all good fun, admittedly in a fairly quick and disposable way, but from a BG3 perspective I’d definitely recommend the first, Legends of Baldur’s Gate, which shows how Minsc came to be around a hundred years after the Bhaalspawn crisis, the fifth, Infernal Tides, which I believe is a take on the Descent to Avernus campaign which is an immediate precursor to BG3 and is clearly still having repercussions, and the sixth, Mindbreaker, in we discover a strange new cult implanting mindflayer tadpoles into key characters in Baldur’s Gate . I don’t know how canon they’ll be considered for BG3, given WotC seem pretty happy for even official material to exist in slightly different possible versions of the Realms, but the fact that Minsc is in BG3 and Mindbreaker ties so closely into the BG3 story suggest the game will at the very least be taking elements of them.

EDIT: BTW, regarding some of those other names I mentioned, and one thing to be aware of in BG1 if you’ve not played far through it before, is that a few of the companions come in pairs that need to be recruited or dismissed together, unless you find a creative way to get rid of one of them. You may have come across Xzar and Montaron, who are one such pair and likely the first companions you’ll meet other than Imoen. Jaheira and Khalid are another, and while Minsc is first encountered alone I think he’ll abandon you if you don’t help him rescue his witch Dynaheir in a reasonable timeframe. I think Skie and Eldoth are the only othe
r pair, but though chances are you’ll meet Eldoth long before Skie and I don’t recall him being in a massive rush, I personally don’t know why anyone would want him without her and in fact I find their dynamic so perfectly dreadful (and I mean that as a compliment) that I’d not want her without him either.

I started playing Star War The Old Republic again. I'm mainly playing my Twilek smuggler through the storyline and my Zabrak Jedi knight. My Main character, Twilek shadow, is still doing the new content, but the Mandalorian storyline is sooo boring, so I often find myself doing other stuff.

I'm still playing Guild Wars 2 too, doing a lot of stuff for ascended armor and the Skyscale.

A friend told me, that Pathfinder WotR is on sale.on Steam, so I might give it a try.

Cyberpunk 2077 was always what it was an nothing more. If you're suddenly expecting it to be GTA, then yea, that's on you, that was never going to be the game. "choices matter"? Well, there's a number of completely different endings, and a number of quests end completely differently based on YOUR choice, but sure, let's go with choices don't matter. There's a reason it has mostly/very positive reviews. I have little sympathy for people that let hype take over.

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So that’s my 2 cents. As with anything, your subjectives tastes are your own, of course.

A friend told me, that Pathfinder WotR is on sale.on Steam, so I might give it a try.

So what is it that Cyberpunk does well? Bladerunner themed photo booth?

A friend told me, that Pathfinder WotR is on sale.on Steam, so I might give it a try.

With that attitude? Nothing for you unfortunately. There is a group of people that no matter what Cyberpunk 2077 added, it would never be enough, and that's okay, not every game is for everyone. I personally had a great time with most of Cyberpunk 2077, there were choices, character building, a fun world to explore, fun gameplay, etc. Was it perfect? Gods no, but that didn't stop me from enjoying most of my time with it.

as an aside, I should stop mentioning this game, it almost always turns a bit too negative.

Just spotted an email from GoG saying BG1 EE, BG2 EE & Siege of Dragonspear are 75% off with them at the moment, in the event anyone's in the market before BG3 releases!

I have them all. I resumed my BG1 playthrough on my iPad that I started last summer, I think. I want to get to Baldur's Gate and refresh the city after that last trailer. Its been a while.

I remember when that CP trailer came out that showed Samurai dropping off the McGuffin and then getting betrayed and thinking “what am I watching?” It clearly wasn’t gameplay, but it looked like it was sorta trying to mimic gameplay. But there is no way a game could offer the narrative freedom that CDPR was promising and look like that. So was it supposed to be giving an idea of what playing the game would be like or not? If so, why not just show gameplay?

I made a (rare from me) post on Reddit asking this and got downvoted into oblivion. Turns out my reticence was on the money, but CDPR had been working their marketing campaign so hard that many were treating the game as the Second Coming and got positively vitriolic whenever anybody even suggested otherwise.

Moral of the story: if it looks too good to be true…

I apologise. It was more combatitive that I should have been, though I am somewhat perplexed by your criticism of the player base. It seems you agree that Cp doesn't have narrative chops and immersivness/attention to detail of a Rockstar game, and its RPG systems and reactivity are very surface levels. But it is a game that is absolutely trying to be Cyberpunk GTA/Deus Ex. To me its like saying you can't criticise Redfall for not being a good coop-shooter... while it is precisely what the game tries to be. It is a fairly fresh setting for a game though, but in its unfinished state it left me more frustrated than anything - some promising tidbits the game never followed up on.

I had no hype for Cyberpunk - I got burned before and Cp raised a lot of red flags. I didn't touch it until [looks at gog) 8 months ago. You are right, there is still sizable audience that enjoys the game quite a bit - that is probably I was expeciting something less forgettable. It is not the first time CDPR released an unfinished game - especially Witcher1&2 needed a year to mature. But I really believe Cyberpunk wouldn't get the time of day if not for Witcher3 success.

But hey, if you found things to enjoy in it, I have no intention to argue. More power to you. But the game is very, VERY flawed even in its best bits (and don't get me wrong, the game has good bits). I don't think hype and expectations are entirely to blame. Even now, I don't think even now the game is in a state worthy of 1.0 release - I can't imagine how bad it must have been on the release.

But yeah circling to the original point - at the moment want to hear more about the patch. I don't expect new systems, but those that are in the game are in a dire need of a rework.

Na, we're good buddy, no offence taken.
I think for me, I like to ask people 'if you ignore all the marketing of Cyberpunk completely, ignore everything that you expected it to be from the marketing, how does it stand on it's own?' When most people talk about the flaws of Cyberpunk, they talk about the expectations, bad performance on old consoles, how it's 'not an rpg', and how the hype was over the top and fans were toxic. All of that is tru-ish (although I think it's just as much of an RPG if not more than the Witcher 3), but it doesn't speak to the game itself really.

It's not an RPG: What is an RPG? stats? character choices? branching ways to complete quests? upgrading levels? character customization and building? Cyberpunk has all of that.

"And one has to say this in many cases where the question arises “Is this an appropriate description or not?” The answer is: “Yes, it is appropriate, but only for this narrowly circumscribed region, not for the whole of what you were claiming to describe.” It is as if someone were to say: “A game consists in moving objects about on a surface according to certain rules . . .” — and we replied: You seem to be thinking of board games, but there are others. You can make your definition correct by expressly restricting it to those games.

a total pseud

Is that a British thing? I don't think I've ever heard that before.

Aargh, I tried to stop myself posting this as it probably makes me sound a total pseud, but I couldn't resist and now have to face up to the possibility I am in fact a total pseud.

*Strokes non-existent beard and nods wisely* I am reminded of Wittgenstein's discussion of the impossibility of necessary and sufficient criteria for something to be an RPGs (okay, game) in his Philosophical Investigations: