Originally Posted by Warlocke
Originally Posted by AusarViled
Originally Posted by ladydub
No one wants to play Rogue? Except couple of people who want to splash a couple of Rogue levels to multiclass.

Why is that? Are they bad?

The main reason is that you can not use daggers on Rogue in a way you may think, the dagger in 2nd hand is much weaker then the first, instead of doing 1D6 + BONUS, +1d6 from the right hand, the 2nd dagger only does somewhere between 2-4 damage with no bonus action. This is because 5th ed only provides 2 actions (main and bonus). You do more damage throwing a stone at an enemy then using your bonus action to stab.

Your much better to use any other weapon outside of dagger, as daggers are not exclusive to stabbing in bg3. Spears, and Swords all use strength and can still be used to stab with, all while wielding a shield +2AC. Only reason you need Rouge is for the proficiency as it makes you do a lot more (knife master, hence level 3), and improves odds of landing it a lot. Knowing how broken stealth is in BG3 due to dos, Rogue 1-3 is ideal, beyond that you hit no value.

This problem is also in pathfinder. Taking 2 berserker, 2 fighter, and 2 blood rager gives you almost 2X damage then doing any of the classes exclusive to 6

This is a weird post full of tangents and misinformation.

Who said anything about daggers?
Daggers do 1d4.
Knife Master is not a 5E or BG3 subclass.
If by stab you mean sneak attack- you cannot use spears to sneak attack. Only ranged weapons and finesse weapons.
The point of a high level rogue is the high sneak attack bonus damage. There is little value in taking 1 to 3 levels of rogue outside of flavor, as multiclassing is much weaker in 5E. This isn’t Pathfinder (thank Odin).


You hit the nail on the head, it's not 1d6, it's 1d4, I just misremebered because of how brain dead stupid this rule is because we always change this in homebrew. Daggers at terrible.

*sneak attack* as in getting a surprise round and getting the accuracy bonus. Even cantrips benefit from it if you use hide. Now regarding spears from my memory they are not finesse your right. That's a common complaint in dnd also from my memory. Something larian should change